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Ars debunked this weird idea that batteries aren't improving a few years back: https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/05/eternally-five-years-away-no-batteries-ar

• ffsm8 2y ago
  I didn't mean they didn't improve at all. They absolutely have. Just not enough to matter in the context of cars. And even if we did get a 50% battery capacity upgrade in 2025 as compared to 2024 - while I wouldve lost the bet... My original point would've still been just as correct, because even at that point, they're still annoying to work around vs ICEs and their biggest cost would still come from a single component (battery) that has a pretty short expected lifespan compared to a regular engine And you yourself likely know that as well, considering you didn't even acknowledge my bet ( ◠ ‿ ・ )
  • trog 2y ago
    I didn't bother acknowledging your bet because a) it feels like a bad faith proposition and b) it's a goalpost shift from my first comment which was about batteries getting cheaper, not more efficient. I'd also argue we're seeing battery improvements in cars pretty consistently, which is one of the reasons I can now buy an EV with 350km range for AUD$30k.
    • ffsm8 2y ago
      The bet was definitely an afterthought, but definitely not made in bad faith. The claim of 50% improvement yoy in a long established category like batteries was just so outlandishly improbable to me, that it'd be willing to bet that that's not gonna happen. There have definitely been improvements in that regard, just not in such a short period of time