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Well, plenty of cases in terms of prefectural laws have a surprising amount of compliance despite the lack of a penalty. Most recently, mandating bicycle helmet

by ninjin 2y ago

Well, plenty of cases in terms of prefectural laws have a surprising amount of compliance despite the lack of a penalty. Most recently, mandating bicycle helmets. Yes, far from everyone wear them, but it has not been a full year yet. However it slowly pushes people towards compliance without bogging down law enforcement. Remember that Japan had some of the highest rate of mask compliance during COVID-19 without there being any penalties other than harsh stares. Japanese people are still human with all the ups and down, but some aspects of society truly are different here.

traceroute66 2y ago
> that Japan had some of the highest rate of mask compliance during COVID-19 As a regular visitor to Japan for $work for many years, my impression is the reason for mask compliance during COVID is because wearing masks during cold/flu season BEFORE COVID was normal. My understanding is that part of it is to do with the fact that Japan had "been there, done that, got the postcard" when they dealt with SARS. So COVID was "just another" SARS and the Japanese knew what they had to do. Japan's handling of COVID was, from a western perspective, exemplary. Japan is a country with 2x the population of the UK. Japan is a country that lives and works in MUCH higher density than the UK. And yet it only had something like 1/10th of the COVID cases/deaths the UK did. Given the immense population density, COVID should have spread like wildfire in Japan, but it did not. The other part is the Japanese cultural thing where, by and large, you understand you are part of a larger picture and coughing/spluttering/sneezing all over your fellow countrymen is very much not cool. So wearing a mask is simply understood to be the right thing to do. On this subject, see also the famous images of Japanese fans clearing up rubbish from football stadiums during world cups ... I didn't see many drunken western fans doing that. To be clear, I am not insinuating Japan is perfect, far from it. But there is a lot the West could and should learn from Japan ... if it ever wanted to. :)
- aakresearch 2y ago
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  - OKRainbowKid 2y ago
    This does read like a conspiracy theory to me.
    - aakresearch 2y ago
      Case in point.
  - traceroute66 2y ago
    What the hell is that load of rambling, incoherent, waffle @aakresearch ? If you are trying to push the anti-mask agenda, then that boat has long sailed. Scientific evidence from multiple reputable worldwide sources is very much against you. If you are trying to push some anti-Japanese agenda, might I suggest, to put it politely, that sort of thing is not appropriate here or anywhere else.
    - aakresearch 2y ago
      This is not even wrong :-\ I'm really puzzled how my words can be seen as "pushing" any "agenda". My only intent was to point out that "just-so story" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-so_story https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-so_story) is a lame way to explain complex events. People, of course, are happy to settle on it because of comfort it provides.

by ninjin 2y ago

traceroute66 2y ago

> that Japan had some of the highest rate of mask compliance during COVID-19 As a regular visitor to Japan for $work for many years, my impression is the reason for mask compliance during COVID is because wearing masks during cold/flu season BEFORE COVID was normal. My understanding is that part of it is to do with the fact that Japan had "been there, done that, got the postcard" when they dealt with SARS. So COVID was "just another" SARS and the Japanese knew what they had to do. Japan's handling of COVID was, from a western perspective, exemplary. Japan is a country with 2x the population of the UK. Japan is a country that lives and works in MUCH higher density than the UK. And yet it only had something like 1/10th of the COVID cases/deaths the UK did. Given the immense population density, COVID should have spread like wildfire in Japan, but it did not. The other part is the Japanese cultural thing where, by and large, you understand you are part of a larger picture and coughing/spluttering/sneezing all over your fellow countrymen is very much not cool. So wearing a mask is simply understood to be the right thing to do. On this subject, see also the famous images of Japanese fans clearing up rubbish from football stadiums during world cups ... I didn't see many drunken western fans doing that. To be clear, I am not insinuating Japan is perfect, far from it. But there is a lot the West could and should learn from Japan ... if it ever wanted to. :)

aakresearch 2y ago
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- OKRainbowKid 2y ago
  This does read like a conspiracy theory to me.
  - aakresearch 2y ago
    Case in point.
- traceroute66 2y ago
  What the hell is that load of rambling, incoherent, waffle @aakresearch ? If you are trying to push the anti-mask agenda, then that boat has long sailed. Scientific evidence from multiple reputable worldwide sources is very much against you. If you are trying to push some anti-Japanese agenda, might I suggest, to put it politely, that sort of thing is not appropriate here or anywhere else.
  - aakresearch 2y ago
    This is not even wrong :-\ I'm really puzzled how my words can be seen as "pushing" any "agenda". My only intent was to point out that "just-so story" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-so_story https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-so_story) is a lame way to explain complex events. People, of course, are happy to settle on it because of comfort it provides.