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I take it you're not an american? Almost all health providers will not give out their rates, it's extremely hard to get prices on prescriptions, and you're rare

by deelowe 14y ago

I take it you're not an american? Almost all health providers will not give out their rates, it's extremely hard to get prices on prescriptions, and you're rarely billed in full up front. It's damn near impossible to do anything remotely resembling a free market based approach to healthcare. There's this relationship between insurance providers and the health industry today that's impenetrable. It's very hard to explain, because nothing in the world exists like it. It's a horrible mess. P.S. I never shared my opinion on the matter, but since you brought it up, I'm actually on the fence about the matter. I'm not a fan of the health care bill, but more because it seems to me like it's going to make things even more complicated than before. Also, I'm not a fan of the precedent the supreme court's ruling has set essentially weakening the states' powers. But, that's all fairly irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

CurtHagenlocher 14y ago
But are you asserting that this is somehow the result of regulation? Because I have trouble understanding that.
- deelowe 14y ago
  I asserted nothing of the sort. Regulation is just a part of it. Again, I could go on for days. It's the result of both employer subsidized health insurance and bad regulation. I'm not against regulation. I'm just against stupid regulation and there's a ton of stupid regulation in the health industry today. Prime example: not being able to purchase health insurance out of state, which forces insurance corporations to setup shell companies in every state complicating the claims process and creating a ton of bureaucratic waste. On the employer provided bit, by having the employer negotiate the terms of the coverage, it removes the insured from the process. I, as an individual, have nearly no choice in the matter. I either go with the employer provided plan or I go with an ubsubsidized plan where there's nearly no competition in the marketplace, among other things (so rates are ridiculous).
  - arjunnarayan 14y ago
    You did not address the question.

by deelowe 14y ago

CurtHagenlocher 14y ago

But are you asserting that this is somehow the result of regulation? Because I have trouble understanding that.

deelowe 14y ago
I asserted nothing of the sort. Regulation is just a part of it. Again, I could go on for days. It's the result of both employer subsidized health insurance and bad regulation. I'm not against regulation. I'm just against stupid regulation and there's a ton of stupid regulation in the health industry today. Prime example: not being able to purchase health insurance out of state, which forces insurance corporations to setup shell companies in every state complicating the claims process and creating a ton of bureaucratic waste. On the employer provided bit, by having the employer negotiate the terms of the coverage, it removes the insured from the process. I, as an individual, have nearly no choice in the matter. I either go with the employer provided plan or I go with an ubsubsidized plan where there's nearly no competition in the marketplace, among other things (so rates are ridiculous).
- arjunnarayan 14y ago
  You did not address the question.