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> one party has made publicly known that they will specifically defund or worse the agencies that will report this kind of information Evidence on the specific

> one party has made publicly known that they will specifically defund or worse the agencies that will report this kind of information Evidence on the specific claim you’re making? Defunding government agencies for savings or efficiency is not the same as trying to defund things specifically to hide certain scientific data with some sinister goal. > What other examples of political shenanigans do you need? I’m looking for evidence that supports the GP’s claim. Are there political acts that redirected money from NASA into red states, with an intent to funnel funding based on that political leaning? Is there evidence that they tried (and succeeded?) interfering with specific projects on the grounds that it would show pollution sources that are politically problematic (as opposed to simply defining NASA’s mission as studying things outside of earth)?

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dylan604 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 Just defunding agencies from reporting science is bad enough regardless of where they move the money. Denying the part because it's not the whole of what you're looking for says more about you than anything else.
defrost 2y ago
The US has been through exactly this before: (2016): On space issues, a senior Trump advisor, former Pennsylvania Rep. Bob Walker, has called for ending NASA earth science research, including work related to climate change. Walker contends that NASA’s proper role is deep-space research and exploration, not “politically correct environmental monitoring.” ~ https://theconversation.com/eyes-in-the-sky-cutting-nasa-earth-observations-would-be-a-costly-mistake-69705 https://theconversation.com/eyes-in-the-sky-cutting-nasa-ear... (2018) Trump White House quietly cancels NASA research verifying greenhouse gas cuts ~ https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-white-house-quietly-cancels-nasa-research-verifying-greenhouse-gas-cuts https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-white-house-qu... And, again, NASA's mission is assisted by testing instrument designs from space on the only planet we have complete surface access to .. otherwise it's just diddling about with remote guesswork sans ground truthing.
- startupsfail 2y ago
  The tragedy of MAGA is that this is the tragedy of the commons in an adversarial setting, where some members are actively trying to destroy the commons to gain political power. Add to that foreign power interference to finance helpful idiots and it’s not surprising that even obvious common goods, like triaging where accidental greenhouse gas leakage happens are treated adversely.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    I imagine the foreign agencies running these interference campaigns as caricatures sipping champagne/cognac/etc, cigar smoking, fully belly laughing that is occurring in all of these places at how little effort is being expelled on their part causing so much chaos on our part.

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dylan604 2y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 Just defunding agencies from reporting science is bad enough regardless of where they move the money. Denying the part because it's not the whole of what you're looking for says more about you than anything else.

defrost 2y ago

The US has been through exactly this before: (2016): On space issues, a senior Trump advisor, former Pennsylvania Rep. Bob Walker, has called for ending NASA earth science research, including work related to climate change. Walker contends that NASA’s proper role is deep-space research and exploration, not “politically correct environmental monitoring.” ~ https://theconversation.com/eyes-in-the-sky-cutting-nasa-earth-observations-would-be-a-costly-mistake-69705 https://theconversation.com/eyes-in-the-sky-cutting-nasa-ear... (2018) Trump White House quietly cancels NASA research verifying greenhouse gas cuts ~ https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-white-house-quietly-cancels-nasa-research-verifying-greenhouse-gas-cuts https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-white-house-qu... And, again, NASA's mission is assisted by testing instrument designs from space on the only planet we have complete surface access to .. otherwise it's just diddling about with remote guesswork sans ground truthing.

startupsfail 2y ago
The tragedy of MAGA is that this is the tragedy of the commons in an adversarial setting, where some members are actively trying to destroy the commons to gain political power. Add to that foreign power interference to finance helpful idiots and it’s not surprising that even obvious common goods, like triaging where accidental greenhouse gas leakage happens are treated adversely.
- dylan604 2y ago
  I imagine the foreign agencies running these interference campaigns as caricatures sipping champagne/cognac/etc, cigar smoking, fully belly laughing that is occurring in all of these places at how little effort is being expelled on their part causing so much chaos on our part.