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The government has failed the constituents. Regulatory capture is still the highest ROI investment, and we should work on that.

by m463 2y ago

potato3732842 2y ago
It's a perverse feedback loop. The more power the .gov has to regulate the better the ROI of regulatory capture.' I'm not sure how we get out of this situation without it getting way worse.
- r-w 2y ago
  Huh? Why can't you just regulate the flow of private funds to public servants and leave it at that? Not sure why you seem to be arguing that passing one bill expands the power of government as a whole.
- hobobaggins 2y ago
  Reduce the power of the govt to regulate things at the federal level and instead move that power to the states. This will return power to the people, and people will naturally move to states that are delivering for them (whatever that is that they're looking for). Across 50 states, this makes it 50 times harder (literally) to practice regulatory capture, and 50 times as likely that they'll be caught out by it, and because news travels at the speed of light today (unlike in the Constitutional era), 50 times as likely that the other state residents will find out about it. Everything becomes fifty times better once we just return to the principles of federalism: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." (Tenth Amendment) Decentralization still works. Push the power back downward to the people who care the most -- you and me. Even though it's one of the rare examples of a federal governing agency that is mostly apolitical and actually functions semi-effectively, the FTC, for example, is a largely pointless, neutered entity that pales in comparison to state powers. For example, the state Attorneys General were able to effectively destroy Big Tobacco. The federal government didn't even come close.
  - consteval 2y ago
    This just doesn't work because MOST companies are multi-state. Hell, most are multi-national in the new globalized world. So you have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
  - b3ing 2y ago
    Yeah and only 1 or 2 states will get around to doing anything about that 5-10 years down the road.
  - paulryanrogers 2y ago
    People cannot move so easily. Some states have more influence than others. It also makes the decision of 'where' to move more complex. Do I choose a state where my daughters have few rights or one where corporations control everything or where the pollution is so bad my kid's IQ will suffer?
    - fragmede 2y ago
      Also, the one without school shootings please.
      - paulryanrogers 2y ago
        States have open borders, so I'm afraid that can't be solved by local measure alone
  - Hikikomori 2y ago
    Sounds like a free market approach, we know how that usually goes, and we already see how bad it is for women and abortions.
    - tekknik 2y ago
      It seems like most of the problems with abortions are seeking one when you want one and don’t need one and also live in a state that outlaws them. In fact recently I read an article where the Drs refused a medically necessary abortion and even the judge said they were cleared given the situation. when will people stop being controlling and learn there’s two sides to this?
bee_rider 2y ago
Someone should come up with a form of government where we just, like, ask the people what they want the government to do and then it does that.
- Loughla 2y ago
  I was at breakfast this morning and overheard a conversation at the table next to me. This conversation was about how a recent thunderstorm had small hail accompanying the rain. And then that this small hail was the leftover seeds from "the jet planes spraying that stuff to control the weather." Direct voting on issues terrifies me.
  - jh00ker 2y ago
    I was at a coffee shop a couple weeks ago and I heard two guys going on about how the moon landing never could have happened because it seems impossible. They didn't have any supporting data. They just kept saying things like "all the footage looked so totally fake." My favorite was "and how did they even get back to Earth? I don't remember ever seeing video of then launching a rocket off the moon, do you?" SMH
    - orbisvicis 2y ago
      The astronauts drew straws, and Sandy Koufax had the bad fortune to draw the short straw. He would stay behind to roll tape while Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were to return home. The two astronauts would remain suited for the ascent. Buzz Aldrin would monitor the instrument consoles while Neil Armstrong was to remain tethered to the open hatchway in what was later termed "a daring attempt" to recover the film canister thrown by Sandy Koufax. Unfortunately Neil Armstrong was unable to recover the canister. He described it whizzing past his gloved fingers merely inches away during the docking maneuvers with the command module. No one knows what became of the footage. To this day it is likely tumbling around the cold dark expanse of space, perhaps as a new lunar satellite. ... and that's why we don't have footage of the lunar ascent.
      - 2y ago

The government has failed the constituents. Regulatory capture is still the highest ROI investment, and we should work on that.

by m463 2y ago

The government has failed the constituents. Regulatory capture is still the highest ROI investment, and we should work on that.

potato3732842 2y ago

It's a perverse feedback loop. The more power the .gov has to regulate the better the ROI of regulatory capture.' I'm not sure how we get out of this situation without it getting way worse.

r-w 2y ago
Huh? Why can't you just regulate the flow of private funds to public servants and leave it at that? Not sure why you seem to be arguing that passing one bill expands the power of government as a whole.
hobobaggins 2y ago
Reduce the power of the govt to regulate things at the federal level and instead move that power to the states. This will return power to the people, and people will naturally move to states that are delivering for them (whatever that is that they're looking for). Across 50 states, this makes it 50 times harder (literally) to practice regulatory capture, and 50 times as likely that they'll be caught out by it, and because news travels at the speed of light today (unlike in the Constitutional era), 50 times as likely that the other state residents will find out about it. Everything becomes fifty times better once we just return to the principles of federalism: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." (Tenth Amendment) Decentralization still works. Push the power back downward to the people who care the most -- you and me. Even though it's one of the rare examples of a federal governing agency that is mostly apolitical and actually functions semi-effectively, the FTC, for example, is a largely pointless, neutered entity that pales in comparison to state powers. For example, the state Attorneys General were able to effectively destroy Big Tobacco. The federal government didn't even come close.
- consteval 2y ago
  This just doesn't work because MOST companies are multi-state. Hell, most are multi-national in the new globalized world. So you have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
- b3ing 2y ago
  Yeah and only 1 or 2 states will get around to doing anything about that 5-10 years down the road.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  People cannot move so easily. Some states have more influence than others. It also makes the decision of 'where' to move more complex. Do I choose a state where my daughters have few rights or one where corporations control everything or where the pollution is so bad my kid's IQ will suffer?
  - fragmede 2y ago
    Also, the one without school shootings please.
    - paulryanrogers 2y ago
      States have open borders, so I'm afraid that can't be solved by local measure alone
- Hikikomori 2y ago
  Sounds like a free market approach, we know how that usually goes, and we already see how bad it is for women and abortions.
  - tekknik 2y ago
    It seems like most of the problems with abortions are seeking one when you want one and don’t need one and also live in a state that outlaws them. In fact recently I read an article where the Drs refused a medically necessary abortion and even the judge said they were cleared given the situation. when will people stop being controlling and learn there’s two sides to this?

bee_rider 2y ago

Someone should come up with a form of government where we just, like, ask the people what they want the government to do and then it does that.

Loughla 2y ago
I was at breakfast this morning and overheard a conversation at the table next to me. This conversation was about how a recent thunderstorm had small hail accompanying the rain. And then that this small hail was the leftover seeds from "the jet planes spraying that stuff to control the weather." Direct voting on issues terrifies me.
- jh00ker 2y ago
  I was at a coffee shop a couple weeks ago and I heard two guys going on about how the moon landing never could have happened because it seems impossible. They didn't have any supporting data. They just kept saying things like "all the footage looked so totally fake." My favorite was "and how did they even get back to Earth? I don't remember ever seeing video of then launching a rocket off the moon, do you?" SMH
  - orbisvicis 2y ago
    The astronauts drew straws, and Sandy Koufax had the bad fortune to draw the short straw. He would stay behind to roll tape while Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were to return home. The two astronauts would remain suited for the ascent. Buzz Aldrin would monitor the instrument consoles while Neil Armstrong was to remain tethered to the open hatchway in what was later termed "a daring attempt" to recover the film canister thrown by Sandy Koufax. Unfortunately Neil Armstrong was unable to recover the canister. He described it whizzing past his gloved fingers merely inches away during the docking maneuvers with the command module. No one knows what became of the footage. To this day it is likely tumbling around the cold dark expanse of space, perhaps as a new lunar satellite. ... and that's why we don't have footage of the lunar ascent.
    - 2y ago