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> already substantial subsidies for the rail industry Though to be fair, there are also substantial subsidies for the whole road network.
by V__ 2y ago
> already substantial subsidies for the rail industry
Though to be fair, there are also substantial subsidies for the whole road network.
- theendisney4 2y agoRoads are much more efficient with fewer cars.
- kachapopopow 2y agoThe weather would like to have a word with you.
- bmoxb 2y agoBy what metric?
- lispm 2y agoA German study from 2021 says road traffic created 70 billion euros costs per year. Of that 45 billion had to be paid from general taxes.
- msandford 2y agoThis was phrased poorly if I understand the meaning. "If there is limited use, roads are more efficient than rail" That's probably true as roads tend to cost less per mile than rail and you don't have transfer problems. When heavily utilized the opposite is true: rail is more efficient than roads.
- theendisney4 2y agoI dont know how things are in germany but in the netherlands a lot more people own cars which slows down traffic. All over the world they keep rebuilding congestion points only for traffic to increase. If making public transport cheaper attracts more travelers there will be fewer cars on the road. The money spend on public transport will aso make car travel more efficiënt. Roads will last longer. Fewer upgrades are needed. Cars will last longer. etc It is hard to picture how many cars it takes to move a train full of people. > 7.6 percent fewer kilometres travelled by car. > German cars were recorded to have travelled 582.4 billion kilometers.
- taberiand 2y agoThat's why motorists should always vote for more public transport, instead of increasing road lanes - road per user is improved if you reduce the number of other cars
- jdietrich 2y agoRoad vehicles are heavily taxed in European countries. I don't have the figures for Germany, but the UK spends £12bn per year on roads, while it collects £25bn in road fuel duty and £7bn in vehicle excise duty. https://www.statista.com/statistics/298675/united-kingdom-uk-public-sector-expenditure-transport-by-category/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/298675/united-kingdom-uk... https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/tax-by-tax-spend-by-spend/fuel-duties/ https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/tax-by-tax-spend-by-spend/... https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/tax-by-tax-spend-by-spend/vehicle-excise-duty/ https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/tax-by-tax-spend-by-spend/...
- V__ 2y agoVehicle, gas and similar taxes are about €50bn in Germany. The cost of the road system is about €70bn. [1] https://www.forschung-und-wissen.de/nachrichten/oekonomie/autos-und-co.-decken-kostenbedarf-des-strassenverkehrs-kaum-13376725 https://www.forschung-und-wissen.de/nachrichten/oekonomie/au...
- taffer 2y agoAccording to a study by the HTW Berlin, Germany collects €50 billion in road taxes and duties, but spends €30 billion on road maintenance and €30 billion on traffic police and road accident victims. Add to this an estimated €10-30 billion in environmental damage due to air and noise pollution.
- threeseed 2y agoThere are also deaths caused by road accidents and health issues caused by pollution. Those have real economic impacts which aren’t being reflected in the true cost of cars.
- okr 2y ago[flagged]