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He's correct and you referencing a single article that is 6 months old, 1 of thousands that survived the flagging by brigading zionists, is not any sufficient e

He's correct and you referencing a single article that is 6 months old, 1 of thousands that survived the flagging by brigading zionists, is not any sufficient evidence to the contrary. One can easily see how many Gaza related articles get immediately flagged and removed here https://github.com/vitoplantamura/HackerNewsRemovals https://github.com/vitoplantamura/HackerNewsRemovals

reducesuffering 2y ago
"He's correct" when I just gave a counterfactual showing "any anti-Israel post" is false? There have been many very prominent posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39603299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39603299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38572675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38572675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40267639 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40267639 How many more do you need? Your bias is showing, same as when different people simultaneously complain that HN is "too left" or "too right."
- jedimind 2y ago
  > How many more do you need? Your bias is showing, same as when different people simultaneously complain that HN is "too left" or "too right." Your reliance on a handful of outdated posts is statistically insignificant when trying to deny the clear trend of Zionist brigading over the past 12 months. Through the https://github.com/vitoplantamura/HackerNewsRemovals https://github.com/vitoplantamura/HackerNewsRemovals , we can track the data and see a clear pattern of brigading when it comes to anything that's remotely critical of Israel. And even those which you listed survived mass false flagging attempts. How could five articles, all older than 5-6 months, ever be statistically significant against the backdrop of thousands of such articles being mass flagged by zionists EACH month? Ignoring this overwhelming evidence of coordinated downvoting and flagging only highlights your own bias.
  - reducesuffering 2y ago
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    - jedimind 2y ago
      >Have you even read what the GitHub project is doing? It’s trivial what’s flawed with it within a few minutes, starting with the assumption that stories don’t drop suddenly in a minute even though they’ve been told that there’s an 18 hour derank timer! I've read exactly what it's doing and it's only a fraction of the data-source for that observation. Many people, including myself, observed that zionist brigrading pattern for the past 12 months. Even harmless stuff from what's mildly critical of israel gets immediately flagged, so much so that one can hover over the post expecting it to get flagged so one can immediately vouch for it - so it doesnt lose traction - but even after many people vouch for it, the zionist flagging brigade often comes back to kill it or just stifle its traction and yank it from the front page. The latter is especially successful since it is invisible censorship that helps them maintain plausible deniability, you can claim that the article hasn't been censored since it's sill up but the end-result is the same i.e. diminished visibility away from the front page. >Regardless, duh contentious issues get flagged and downranked more often. Large swathes of HN don’t want to see politics or flame wars here, pro-Israel or anti-Israel. If you’ve ever flagged a pro-Israel post, you’re doing the exact same thing that people would accuse this place of burying any pro-Israel post. It's not just "contentious" stuff, ANYTHING even mildly critical of israel gets mass false flagged by zionists brigading HN. While writing this reply I've also realized that, lo and behold, you unironically share ADL and IDF propaganda as if it were factual, you're a zionist yourself so it's not surprising that you would try to downplay and deflect in this manner. >Here’s an idea, do an HN search for Gaza and Israel and run the numbers on how many major posts are critical or supportive of Israel? Here's an idea, next time you try to pretend there is no zionist brigading of HN don't try to deceive people by using a handful of old articles that survived the false flagging attempts as if those are statistically significant over thousands of posts that were successfully buried by zionist brigading for the past 12 months. >Surely if there’s so few major anti-Israel posts because of brigading, there should be many more pro-Israel, according to your flawed perspective? Your flawed and primitive logic doesn't even compute, how could there be "many more pro-israel" posts during an active Genocide[1] that israel is committing!? At best there could be articles that are desperately trying to engage in denial, deflection or failed justifications but still end up being outnumbered since most people regardless of affiliation are not big fans of genocidal entities, thus most of these never make it to the front page and require no flagging. israel has committed so many war-crimes in the past 12 months that a proportional amount of submissions will require more false flagging by zionists who want to suppress anything critical of israel and I wouldn't even call these articles "pro-palestine" they are just reporting on israel's depraved behavior and zionists would rather bury such news quickly and they act accordingly. Someone like you who unironically references the racist & deceptive ADL[2] as a reliable source will obviously deflect from the coordinated flagging that is both observable and manifests itself in data that has been tracked for the past 12 months. [1] https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/prof-amos-goldberg-yes-it-is-genocide https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/prof-amos-go... jewish holocaust scholars like Amos Goldberg & Raz Segal have described it as "undoubtedly Genocide". [2] https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/emmaia-gelman-anti-defamation-league/ https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/emmaia-gelman-anti-def... "Under the guise of fighting hate speech, the ADL has a long history of wielding its moral authority to attack Arabs, blacks, and queers."

reducesuffering 2y ago

"He's correct" when I just gave a counterfactual showing "any anti-Israel post" is false? There have been many very prominent posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39603299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39603299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38572675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38572675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40267639 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40267639 How many more do you need? Your bias is showing, same as when different people simultaneously complain that HN is "too left" or "too right."

jedimind 2y ago
> How many more do you need? Your bias is showing, same as when different people simultaneously complain that HN is "too left" or "too right." Your reliance on a handful of outdated posts is statistically insignificant when trying to deny the clear trend of Zionist brigading over the past 12 months. Through the https://github.com/vitoplantamura/HackerNewsRemovals https://github.com/vitoplantamura/HackerNewsRemovals , we can track the data and see a clear pattern of brigading when it comes to anything that's remotely critical of Israel. And even those which you listed survived mass false flagging attempts. How could five articles, all older than 5-6 months, ever be statistically significant against the backdrop of thousands of such articles being mass flagged by zionists EACH month? Ignoring this overwhelming evidence of coordinated downvoting and flagging only highlights your own bias.
- reducesuffering 2y ago
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  - jedimind 2y ago
    >Have you even read what the GitHub project is doing? It’s trivial what’s flawed with it within a few minutes, starting with the assumption that stories don’t drop suddenly in a minute even though they’ve been told that there’s an 18 hour derank timer! I've read exactly what it's doing and it's only a fraction of the data-source for that observation. Many people, including myself, observed that zionist brigrading pattern for the past 12 months. Even harmless stuff from what's mildly critical of israel gets immediately flagged, so much so that one can hover over the post expecting it to get flagged so one can immediately vouch for it - so it doesnt lose traction - but even after many people vouch for it, the zionist flagging brigade often comes back to kill it or just stifle its traction and yank it from the front page. The latter is especially successful since it is invisible censorship that helps them maintain plausible deniability, you can claim that the article hasn't been censored since it's sill up but the end-result is the same i.e. diminished visibility away from the front page. >Regardless, duh contentious issues get flagged and downranked more often. Large swathes of HN don’t want to see politics or flame wars here, pro-Israel or anti-Israel. If you’ve ever flagged a pro-Israel post, you’re doing the exact same thing that people would accuse this place of burying any pro-Israel post. It's not just "contentious" stuff, ANYTHING even mildly critical of israel gets mass false flagged by zionists brigading HN. While writing this reply I've also realized that, lo and behold, you unironically share ADL and IDF propaganda as if it were factual, you're a zionist yourself so it's not surprising that you would try to downplay and deflect in this manner. >Here’s an idea, do an HN search for Gaza and Israel and run the numbers on how many major posts are critical or supportive of Israel? Here's an idea, next time you try to pretend there is no zionist brigading of HN don't try to deceive people by using a handful of old articles that survived the false flagging attempts as if those are statistically significant over thousands of posts that were successfully buried by zionist brigading for the past 12 months. >Surely if there’s so few major anti-Israel posts because of brigading, there should be many more pro-Israel, according to your flawed perspective? Your flawed and primitive logic doesn't even compute, how could there be "many more pro-israel" posts during an active Genocide[1] that israel is committing!? At best there could be articles that are desperately trying to engage in denial, deflection or failed justifications but still end up being outnumbered since most people regardless of affiliation are not big fans of genocidal entities, thus most of these never make it to the front page and require no flagging. israel has committed so many war-crimes in the past 12 months that a proportional amount of submissions will require more false flagging by zionists who want to suppress anything critical of israel and I wouldn't even call these articles "pro-palestine" they are just reporting on israel's depraved behavior and zionists would rather bury such news quickly and they act accordingly. Someone like you who unironically references the racist & deceptive ADL[2] as a reliable source will obviously deflect from the coordinated flagging that is both observable and manifests itself in data that has been tracked for the past 12 months. [1] https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/prof-amos-goldberg-yes-it-is-genocide https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/prof-amos-go... jewish holocaust scholars like Amos Goldberg & Raz Segal have described it as "undoubtedly Genocide". [2] https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/emmaia-gelman-anti-defamation-league/ https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/emmaia-gelman-anti-def... "Under the guise of fighting hate speech, the ADL has a long history of wielding its moral authority to attack Arabs, blacks, and queers."