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Sure, but the quick dopamine fix that you can get from scrolling TikTok or Twitter is way more corrosive than reading long form content in a library.

by lifty 2y ago

exe34 2y ago
I simply don't use either. never have, never will. they do not serve my purpose, so they are irrelevant to my life.
- jtbayly 2y ago
  Then it is important for you to recognize that you are a unicorn.
  - dullcrisp 2y ago
    I think that’s only the case if you only meet people through TikTok and Twitter
    - oblio 2y ago
      Your comment is totally irrelevant to the conversation regarding schools, though. Smartphones are massively corroding kids' brains these days, and YES, this is much worse than TV or video games back in the day.
      - wkat4242 2y ago
        That's not a fact, it's a point being debated.
      - exe34 2y ago
        Even before that, it was books! instead of quietly contemplating the lord, they were getting blasphemous ideas all day long!
  - exe34 2y ago
    my friends do say "you're so special".
- Apocryphon 2y ago
  And yet, you’re still on here posting along with the rest of us.
  - exe34 2y ago
    says a lot about the company I keep, doesn't it.
- ruthmarx 2y ago
  You've definitely used Twitter, even if just to see an announcement or something. Too much important information has been posted there over the last decade for anyone online a lot to have been able to avoid it.
  - exe34 2y ago
    I've seen screenshots of Elon acting like a loser, that's about it.
    - ruthmarx 2y ago
      So you've never clicked on Twitter links, even when they have been submitted to HN?
      - exe34 2y ago
        I've clicked them by accident, does that count as using? I also "use" adverts then.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        You've only clicked them by accident? No that doesn't count as using, it's just hard to believe. It's like the people who have worked in IT for 20 years but 'never used Windows'.
        exe34 2y ago
        I only use windows as a dumb terminal to access my Linux system remotely. I'd require a significant payrise to consider using windows as a daily driver.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        Not talking about using it as a daily driver, just contrasting your claim that you have never used twitter with the people who claim to have never used windows over a 20 year period of working or hobbying in IT.
wkat4242 2y ago
Yeah still I'm much more drawn to long form content. But I guess I'm an outlier like most people on this site that promotes learning new things though text-heavy presentation.
- vertalexgraph 2y ago
  > But I guess I'm an outlier like most people on this site that promotes learning new things though text-heavy presentation. Bold to assume this is what most people on this site are like! I'd hypothesize you're still an outlier in that group in these regards. And that's great! But lots of the data points to people like HN's general demographic still being pulled away from long form text content and towards synthesized/aggregated content served via mixed media. There's still just such strong cultural elitism in the notion of reading a book to learn something, it's not super sexy to claim on a messageboard.
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    > Bold to assume this is what most people on this site are like! Really, look at the front page of this site. If you're not interested in dense textual content you would have closed the tab within 1 second. I really love this site but most people won't even see the story titles, their brain just registers "a confusing jumble of text" and doesn't even try to engage. > But lots of the data points to people like HN's general demographic still being pulled away from long form text content and towards synthesized/aggregated content served via mixed media. And what data is that? > There's still just such strong cultural elitism in the notion of reading a book to learn something, it's not super sexy to claim on a messageboard. I don't think I'm elitist or sexy. Just different. I hate video content because I can't consume it at my own pace (usually much faster than the content offers because video is tailored for the slowest possible denominator). And it's difficult to build context ("where am I within the story") when skipping forward or backwards. In text this is pretty seamless. I don't tend to consume textual content in a start to end sequential manner. But I jump around. Because some stuff I already know, some i really want to deeper dive on, some I need to refer back to later. This is much harder with video.

Sure, but the quick dopamine fix that you can get from scrolling TikTok or Twitter is way more corrosive than reading long form content in a library.

by lifty 2y ago

Sure, but the quick dopamine fix that you can get from scrolling TikTok or Twitter is way more corrosive than reading long form content in a library.

exe34 2y ago

I simply don't use either. never have, never will. they do not serve my purpose, so they are irrelevant to my life.

jtbayly 2y ago
Then it is important for you to recognize that you are a unicorn.
- dullcrisp 2y ago
  I think that’s only the case if you only meet people through TikTok and Twitter
  - oblio 2y ago
    Your comment is totally irrelevant to the conversation regarding schools, though. Smartphones are massively corroding kids' brains these days, and YES, this is much worse than TV or video games back in the day.
    - wkat4242 2y ago
      That's not a fact, it's a point being debated.
    - exe34 2y ago
      Even before that, it was books! instead of quietly contemplating the lord, they were getting blasphemous ideas all day long!
- exe34 2y ago
  my friends do say "you're so special".
Apocryphon 2y ago
And yet, you’re still on here posting along with the rest of us.
- exe34 2y ago
  says a lot about the company I keep, doesn't it.
ruthmarx 2y ago
You've definitely used Twitter, even if just to see an announcement or something. Too much important information has been posted there over the last decade for anyone online a lot to have been able to avoid it.
- exe34 2y ago
  I've seen screenshots of Elon acting like a loser, that's about it.
  - ruthmarx 2y ago
    So you've never clicked on Twitter links, even when they have been submitted to HN?
    - exe34 2y ago
      I've clicked them by accident, does that count as using? I also "use" adverts then.
      - ruthmarx 2y ago
        You've only clicked them by accident? No that doesn't count as using, it's just hard to believe. It's like the people who have worked in IT for 20 years but 'never used Windows'.
        exe34 2y ago
        I only use windows as a dumb terminal to access my Linux system remotely. I'd require a significant payrise to consider using windows as a daily driver.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        Not talking about using it as a daily driver, just contrasting your claim that you have never used twitter with the people who claim to have never used windows over a 20 year period of working or hobbying in IT.

wkat4242 2y ago

Yeah still I'm much more drawn to long form content. But I guess I'm an outlier like most people on this site that promotes learning new things though text-heavy presentation.

vertalexgraph 2y ago
> But I guess I'm an outlier like most people on this site that promotes learning new things though text-heavy presentation. Bold to assume this is what most people on this site are like! I'd hypothesize you're still an outlier in that group in these regards. And that's great! But lots of the data points to people like HN's general demographic still being pulled away from long form text content and towards synthesized/aggregated content served via mixed media. There's still just such strong cultural elitism in the notion of reading a book to learn something, it's not super sexy to claim on a messageboard.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  > Bold to assume this is what most people on this site are like! Really, look at the front page of this site. If you're not interested in dense textual content you would have closed the tab within 1 second. I really love this site but most people won't even see the story titles, their brain just registers "a confusing jumble of text" and doesn't even try to engage. > But lots of the data points to people like HN's general demographic still being pulled away from long form text content and towards synthesized/aggregated content served via mixed media. And what data is that? > There's still just such strong cultural elitism in the notion of reading a book to learn something, it's not super sexy to claim on a messageboard. I don't think I'm elitist or sexy. Just different. I hate video content because I can't consume it at my own pace (usually much faster than the content offers because video is tailored for the slowest possible denominator). And it's difficult to build context ("where am I within the story") when skipping forward or backwards. In text this is pretty seamless. I don't tend to consume textual content in a start to end sequential manner. But I jump around. Because some stuff I already know, some i really want to deeper dive on, some I need to refer back to later. This is much harder with video.