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Please don't spread baseless accusations and FUD.

flykespice 2y ago
Retroarch abuse to emulation devs is quite well documented, it mostly stems from their project lead twinaphex(who also personally receives the donations) but he also has peers involved in the project that think alike. https://x.com/BlueMaxima/status/1488826694626525185?t=16bZ3FaMKwTCNBwoT9bItQ&s=19 https://x.com/BlueMaxima/status/1488826694626525185?t=16bZ3F... https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/ https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/ https://x.com/docsquiddy/status/1488624125686001666?t=7IduLRuv4Satgwi6DeB1Kw&s=19 https://x.com/docsquiddy/status/1488624125686001666?t=7IduLR... https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/s/82JBF0S27r https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/s/82JBF0S27r
- idle_zealot 2y ago
  None of this is documentation of abuse. It's documentation of second-hand complaints of unspecified abuse. That's not to say there isn't actual abuse happening, just that you probably should've picked different links if you wanted to demonstrate it.
perching_aix 2y ago
Why do you not call out what you specifically consider baseless accusations and FUD in their comment? Reads a bit silly without that.
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  Almost everything they said. - There's no proof aethersx2 is his project. But there is proof that it violates open source licenses. - No proof of death threats from users - No proof of "sabotaging his own emulator" - No proof he "got over-harassed by the Retroarch devs to the point they sent email to their irl employer with damning accusations of sexual harassment."
  - flykespice 2y ago
    > - There's no proof aethersx2 is his project. But there is proof that it violates open source licenses. It has been long established in the emulation community that stenzek and tahlreth are the same person https://imgur.com/a/lapBuer https://imgur.com/a/lapBuer https://np.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/15l4km1/introducing_nethersx2_launch_trailer/jvcrhqp/ https://np.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/15l4km1/... https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1e5337f/pcsx2_core_developer_stenzek_leaves/ https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1e5337f... > - No proof of death threats from users https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/103836y/aethersx2_stops_development_due_to_harassment_dev/ https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/103836y/aethersx... Here is an example of email he got: https://imgur.com/Oze5aYG https://imgur.com/Oze5aYG > - No proof of "sabotaging his own emulator" https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/11q75wr/a_warning_about_the_new_aethersx2_update/ https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/11q75wr... > - No proof he "got over-harassed by the Retroarch devs to the point they sent email to their irl employer with damning accusations of sexual harassment." EDIT: Okay, so the employer's email alleging harassment was to another emulator dev (redream), I misremembered it, but the harassment is still real. https://x.com/BlueMaxima/status/1488826694626525185?t=16bZ3FaMKwTCNBwoT9bItQ&s=19 https://x.com/BlueMaxima/status/1488826694626525185?t=16bZ3F... https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/si2v5s/duckstation_now_officially_dead_github_repository/ https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/si2v5s/duckstati... Do your own research
    - ranger_danger 2y ago
      I don't consider any of that to be credible proof.
      - perching_aix 2y ago
        > I don't consider any of that to be credible proof. Everything is up to people's personal consideration so that really isn't saying all that much.
      - flykespice 2y ago
        I really don't know what is "credible" proof to you on Internet drama. That is the best you will have: screenshots, multiple users corrobating the account and stenzek own words. Nothing tangible.

Retroarch abuse to emulation devs is quite well documented, it mostly stems from their project lead twinaphex(who also personally receives the donations) but he also has peers involved in the project that think alike. https://x.com/BlueMaxima/status/1488826694626525185?t=16bZ3FaMKwTCNBwoT9bItQ&s=19 https://x.com/BlueMaxima/status/1488826694626525185?t=16bZ3F... https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/ https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/ https://x.com/docsquiddy/status/1488624125686001666?t=7IduLRuv4Satgwi6DeB1Kw&s=19 https://x.com/docsquiddy/status/1488624125686001666?t=7IduLR... https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/s/82JBF0S27r https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/s/82JBF0S27r

idle_zealot 2y ago
None of this is documentation of abuse. It's documentation of second-hand complaints of unspecified abuse. That's not to say there isn't actual abuse happening, just that you probably should've picked different links if you wanted to demonstrate it.

perching_aix 2y ago

Why do you not call out what you specifically consider baseless accusations and FUD in their comment? Reads a bit silly without that.

ranger_danger 2y ago
Almost everything they said. - There's no proof aethersx2 is his project. But there is proof that it violates open source licenses. - No proof of death threats from users - No proof of "sabotaging his own emulator" - No proof he "got over-harassed by the Retroarch devs to the point they sent email to their irl employer with damning accusations of sexual harassment."
- flykespice 2y ago
  > - There's no proof aethersx2 is his project. But there is proof that it violates open source licenses. It has been long established in the emulation community that stenzek and tahlreth are the same person https://imgur.com/a/lapBuer https://imgur.com/a/lapBuer https://np.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/15l4km1/introducing_nethersx2_launch_trailer/jvcrhqp/ https://np.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/15l4km1/... https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1e5337f/pcsx2_core_developer_stenzek_leaves/ https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1e5337f... > - No proof of death threats from users https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/103836y/aethersx2_stops_development_due_to_harassment_dev/ https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/103836y/aethersx... Here is an example of email he got: https://imgur.com/Oze5aYG https://imgur.com/Oze5aYG > - No proof of "sabotaging his own emulator" https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/11q75wr/a_warning_about_the_new_aethersx2_update/ https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/11q75wr... > - No proof he "got over-harassed by the Retroarch devs to the point they sent email to their irl employer with damning accusations of sexual harassment." EDIT: Okay, so the employer's email alleging harassment was to another emulator dev (redream), I misremembered it, but the harassment is still real. https://x.com/BlueMaxima/status/1488826694626525185?t=16bZ3FaMKwTCNBwoT9bItQ&s=19 https://x.com/BlueMaxima/status/1488826694626525185?t=16bZ3F... https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/si2v5s/duckstation_now_officially_dead_github_repository/ https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/si2v5s/duckstati... Do your own research
  - ranger_danger 2y ago
    I don't consider any of that to be credible proof.
    - perching_aix 2y ago
      > I don't consider any of that to be credible proof. Everything is up to people's personal consideration so that really isn't saying all that much.
    - flykespice 2y ago
      I really don't know what is "credible" proof to you on Internet drama. That is the best you will have: screenshots, multiple users corrobating the account and stenzek own words. Nothing tangible.