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I’m upvoting this comment because it’s a good bit of juicy flamebait and I wouldn’t like it to go to waste. Not on HN anyway. It has all the hallmarks of the ge

I’m upvoting this comment because it’s a good bit of juicy flamebait and I wouldn’t like it to go to waste. Not on HN anyway. It has all the hallmarks of the genre trope. The undertone is that of the cliche: it’s women who are suffering, and the underlying blame is on men because people in general don’t care about the percentage of men who are lonely between the ages of X1 and X2. My feelings disagree with reality, so those high IQ incels have hijacked the narrative and are pushing their agenda. I’m chuckling at someone seriously suggesting that incels have the pop culture pull to execute on this. But I can play along - there are no wrong answers here. I think there are a handful of reasons, some obvious, some too disturbing to discuss on a polite forum - but I’m sure folks here will jump to conjecture all the same that align with their educated opinions, as to the reasons why this narrative/reality is unfolding. This has been dragging on for decades and is only now really picking up steam. In all seriousness, I would look towards in a kind of a squinting eyes way towards what Haidt is talking about. Social Media is toxic cancer and it has replaced a notion of positive communal relationships. I would then follow up with life priorities, and somewhere, very far down the line, interview a handful of those incels to get a raw (though tunnel-visioned) perspective on why they are the way they are. I would bridge topics like peoples needs and wants and desires and obsessions with wealth and being seen and heard and all these things as a kind of maelstrom for the unhappy and sad/solitudal landscape we have in front of us. Lives bereft of deeper joys and harmony in living. People of course, both men and women, (and sometimes children too!) want it easy. They grow up with celeb magazines of the old or the Disney+ of the new and they have it in their mind that somewhere down the line, the cosmic balance will right itself and they will come out alright. But we all know, seeing the wealthy and prosperous on Instagram and TikTok and god knows what they’ll invent tomorrow, that we couldn’t be further from that. That the world is wholly, in human terms anyway, unfair unjust cruel et cetera. So naturally people gravitate towards complete detachment and, I suppose in a good bit of cases, resentment that manifests itself in all sorts of ways. Some inward, some outward. But, nevermind that. I’m here for the flamebait, and OP delivered.

lynx23 2y ago
Thanks for upvoting, however, it didnt really help. However, I was fully aware this thread would cost me some karma. Besides: > The undertone is that of the cliche: It's women who are suffering, and the underlying blame is on men Nice you noticed. However, that "undertone" was deliberately "faked", because, you already know... Without that, I would have been flagged within a few minutes. IOW, I am well aware that whatever you write on the Internet, it better be positive towards women, because otherwise, you're surely going to be cancelled, no matter what what the topic is really about. Its thought police at its best.

lynx23 2y ago

Thanks for upvoting, however, it didnt really help. However, I was fully aware this thread would cost me some karma. Besides: > The undertone is that of the cliche: It's women who are suffering, and the underlying blame is on men Nice you noticed. However, that "undertone" was deliberately "faked", because, you already know... Without that, I would have been flagged within a few minutes. IOW, I am well aware that whatever you write on the Internet, it better be positive towards women, because otherwise, you're surely going to be cancelled, no matter what what the topic is really about. Its thought police at its best.