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I'm not saying psylocybin can't be used safely, nor have I made any claims about its relative toxicity or harm relative to other scheduled drugs. If you're argu

I'm not saying psylocybin can't be used safely, nor have I made any claims about its relative toxicity or harm relative to other scheduled drugs. If you're arguing anything else, I don't think that report says what you think it says. As for my position, I live in SF, it's decriminalized here, I support that. So there's no need for your rude presumption that I find it generally unsafe. I'm also unfamiliar with the dose of SSRIs that would send you into a coma, but I'm fairly certain it's shockingly large. Happy to be informed otherwise. edit to reflect parent edit: yes, I'm aware that breakthrough experiences can be helpful. I'm also saying they should not be your first resort.

jorvi 2y ago
> I don't think that report says what you think it says. The report also speaks to personal, social and populational damage. > I'm also unfamiliar with the dose of SSRIs that would send you into a coma Its not the SSRI itself, but rather anything that messes with your reuptake can put you into some deep problems. And of course the bog-standard grapefruit+medicine interaction. > I'm also saying they should not be your first resort. My point was that if we are talking drugs, yes, treatment with psilocybin should definitely be higher up the list than SSRIs. SSRIs would most likely be for life, daily. Psilocybin could be bi-annually or perhaps even as spot treatment only. > So there's no need for your rude presumption that I find it generally unsafe. Apologies for coming off too strong. I just feel that, reasonable as it is, the “let’s all just take a minute” attitude gives too much ammunition to conservative hoohas to stymie these alternate treatments for another few decades. Imagine if marijuana had been more accessible to people like this in the 80’s-10’s: https://youtu.be/zNT8Zo_sfwo?si=-0xxkGE22zk9q_bC https://youtu.be/zNT8Zo_sfwo?si=-0xxkGE22zk9q_bC https://youtu.be/FSdjvEnyRzk?si=urVWAeUZ4fTCdUiw https://youtu.be/FSdjvEnyRzk?si=urVWAeUZ4fTCdUiw

jorvi 2y ago

> I don't think that report says what you think it says. The report also speaks to personal, social and populational damage. > I'm also unfamiliar with the dose of SSRIs that would send you into a coma Its not the SSRI itself, but rather anything that messes with your reuptake can put you into some deep problems. And of course the bog-standard grapefruit+medicine interaction. > I'm also saying they should not be your first resort. My point was that if we are talking drugs, yes, treatment with psilocybin should definitely be higher up the list than SSRIs. SSRIs would most likely be for life, daily. Psilocybin could be bi-annually or perhaps even as spot treatment only. > So there's no need for your rude presumption that I find it generally unsafe. Apologies for coming off too strong. I just feel that, reasonable as it is, the “let’s all just take a minute” attitude gives too much ammunition to conservative hoohas to stymie these alternate treatments for another few decades. Imagine if marijuana had been more accessible to people like this in the 80’s-10’s: https://youtu.be/zNT8Zo_sfwo?si=-0xxkGE22zk9q_bC https://youtu.be/zNT8Zo_sfwo?si=-0xxkGE22zk9q_bC https://youtu.be/FSdjvEnyRzk?si=urVWAeUZ4fTCdUiw https://youtu.be/FSdjvEnyRzk?si=urVWAeUZ4fTCdUiw