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Psilocybin saved my life. I'm no longer suicidal, I'm no longer a practicing alcoholic, and outside of a few things here and there, I'm generally at peace with

by neom 2y ago

Psilocybin saved my life. I'm no longer suicidal, I'm no longer a practicing alcoholic, and outside of a few things here and there, I'm generally at peace with my life. I cannot express how grateful I am for psilocybin.

rainclouds 2y ago
Psilocybin has always made me not want to drink for extended periods of time after use. Always saw that as a great benefit.
agumonkey 2y ago
Is it something that you still take here and there or was it a time limited therapy ? Congrats on finding a cure for your ailments
- infamouscow 2y ago
  Psilocybin tolerance starts building immediately. Even if you microdose (100 mg), it will stop being effective after 3-4 days.
  - vlabakje90 2y ago
    100mg psilocybin is several times a heroic dose, but 100ug is far below a microdose. Do you mean 100mg of dried mushrooms?
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    - dymk 2y ago
      I think he means 100mg of mushroom body, which might be 1-2mg of psilocybin.
  - dymk 2y ago
    Tolerance also wanes quickly. In 3 days of abstaining, you’re nearly entirely back to baseline tolerance. In 2 weeks you’re entirely back to baseline.
  - hilux 2y ago
    Is there evidence of this?
- neom 2y ago
  I did 3 sessions of 8 grams in silent darkness for 3 weekends in a row and that basically "beat the devil out of me" as they say - it was very very difficult, and a lot of work, but well worth it.I've only felt the "brain haze" (I call it) once since then, I took a gram and went for a long walk in the forest, back to no haze. It's been about 7/8 months and I can feel the "haze" building in my mind again, so I plan to do another 1g in the forest sometime in the coming weeks. However, my personal experience has been that Psilocybin != Psilocybin - the mushroom itself is super important to the process, much like Indica and Sativa have different ways of connecting you to the mind and the aether, Psilocybin (at least for me) VERY much is the same thing, and it's much starker than cannabis is. Getting into woo-woo land here so apologize: I have some concern that just "Psilocybin" isn't a good prescription, that the "spirit" that works on you is unique to the mushroom family, and that both not knowing the mushroom to prescribe and also being clinical about it (Psilocybin vs Mushroom) may not be a good direction to go in to help people with their issues. I also think that about LSD, it might work a bit for a while, but imo it's not the best tool.
  - samatman 2y ago
    Anecdotal case study involving a community of about a hundred enthusiasts: many in this community held the opinion you do, which is that something about the mushrooms themselves is unique to the psilocin experience (psilocybin is not always present, and in any case, metabolizes to psilocin). Then 4-actyl DMT, sometimes call psilacetin, became broadly available. This is a synthetic pro-drug for psilocin, just as psilocybin is a naturally-occurring pro-drug for psilocin. After that, the opinion that the mushroom per se had anything to do with the experience became very rare. It turns out that psilocin is meaningfully different from, in particular, LSD, 2C-B, and MD(M)A. There's definitely something special about it. But that something is also present when it comes in vitro, not just in vivo.
  - tristanMatthias 2y ago
    Totally agree. The variance between species can be dramatic! 2.5 grams of Golden teacher was a standard trip, vs 0.5 grams of PES Amazonian was enough to send my friend into a full blown “awakening” (physical responses and everything). It’s fascinating how they can hit different. Also important to keep in mind the same dose can hit someone different each time depending on surrounding life conditions. I’m a big believer that the mushrooms “show you what you need to see” at any given moment, and that can sometimes range considerably.
M4v3R 2y ago
Thanks for sharing this, you’re not the only one. I have a close friend who tried LSD as a last resort to get the best of his severe depression and suicidal thoughts (after being on SSRIs for his entire life) and just one session completely removed his suicidal thoughts for months. After this experience he repeats this whenever he feels the dark thoughts are coming back and it always curbs them down almost completely. It’s mind-blowing how well it worked for him.
- fsckboy 2y ago
  just consider, if it's so powerful in adjusting his brain, it's probably equally powerful in adjusting anybody's brain, and what if your brain doesn't need adjustment? there's no reason to think it's "idempotent" so to speak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idempotence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idempotence is the property of certain operations in mathematics and computer science whereby they can be applied multiple times without changing the result beyond the initial application
  - yieldcrv 2y ago
    everyone considers that, but because they’ll be dead by the time the studies narrow down anything they chose the substance that moves them towards results - or doesn’t everyone can perceive that psychedelic is doing many highly variable things at once and probably shouldn't be recommended, so they just say their experience
    - fsckboy 2y ago
      the vast majority of people who try psychedelics are not trying to escape untreatable clinical depression, they are doing it recreationally, for a roller coaster ride which they believe connects them with the Almighty or the Unknowable or the Dao or the All-loving Everpresent or the "insert word that sounds profound" <-- oh, the Profundity! These people are inspired—perhaps by the Almighty, i'm not judging—to preach The Gospel of psychedelics and praise any confirmation of these miracles. I'm simply pointing out that what appears to be the Omnipotence of the Almighty might very well be Selling Your Soul to the Devil for all you know. I'm an atheist, simply using metaphor to get the point across to you. When you talk about how powerful medication is in warping the brain to cure intractable mental problems, that is not at all an endorsement of recreational use. Heroin makes you feel like your mother not only loves you, but makes up for her not loving when she abandoned you as a baby. Is heroin therefore a good idea? (and if you say "that's chemical dependency", you completely miss the point)
foobiekr 2y ago
Same. I came to them as an older person (late 40s) who basically had only tried pot a few times prior, and nothing at all before late thirties. I don't drink. My few experiences, the first few times, over the course of a year, spread apart by 3-4 months, went from extremely dark to .. just positive, except the last one, where I had no visuals, no bliss at all, and just came to terms with something else in our lives that was going wrong. The dark ones were rage and anger, and now it seems just gone, like there's nothing there. Like a weight lifted, and seemingly long term.
ghnws 2y ago
SSRIs did the same for me.
whalesalad 2y ago
Same. Grew them myself. Microdose regularly. Take big trips once in a while. It completely changed my life.
hilux 2y ago
That is so wonderful to hear!
andoando 2y ago
Can you share some info on how much you took, and in what setting you took them, what you did on the trip, etc? I have a bunch of shrooms sitting in my cabinet but I havent had got any life altering effect out of them.
- Traubenfuchs 2y ago
  Same: I saw crazy stuff, but when the effects wore off, nothing had changed.
  - seec 2y ago
    Yes, that's pretty normal, that's actually expected behavior. I think people saying it changed stuff are the ones having a problem in the first place (reality perception, lack of sensitivity or whatever). Just like alcohol, those things are basically a poison, that you do not die from, provided you don't overdose (you probably have more chance dying of alcohol than mushrooms but still...). People should take them to have a bit of fun, just like getting inebriated with alcohol and moving on with their life. Beware of people who tries to pretend more, that are most likely full of shit and you can probably ignore most things they say if they lie about that...
  - andoando 2y ago
    This would actually be my preferred trip. I just want to have fun, its been so long since I had genuine good fun. Im tired of all the mental reflection.
puffybuf 2y ago
I'm want to try them. I figure growing them myself is the safest way to go. Got 10 bags of Uncle Ben's brown rice growing mycelium right now.
- aorloff 2y ago
  If you are in the sf bay area, you can just go get what seems to be a variety of high quality, and some tested and stamped (Netherlands) mushroom products at Church of the Zide Door
arunix 2y ago
That sounds great. How can I try it?

by neom 2y ago

rainclouds 2y ago

Psilocybin has always made me not want to drink for extended periods of time after use. Always saw that as a great benefit.

agumonkey 2y ago

Is it something that you still take here and there or was it a time limited therapy ? Congrats on finding a cure for your ailments

infamouscow 2y ago
Psilocybin tolerance starts building immediately. Even if you microdose (100 mg), it will stop being effective after 3-4 days.
- vlabakje90 2y ago
  100mg psilocybin is several times a heroic dose, but 100ug is far below a microdose. Do you mean 100mg of dried mushrooms?
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - dymk 2y ago
    I think he means 100mg of mushroom body, which might be 1-2mg of psilocybin.
- dymk 2y ago
  Tolerance also wanes quickly. In 3 days of abstaining, you’re nearly entirely back to baseline tolerance. In 2 weeks you’re entirely back to baseline.
- hilux 2y ago
  Is there evidence of this?
neom 2y ago
I did 3 sessions of 8 grams in silent darkness for 3 weekends in a row and that basically "beat the devil out of me" as they say - it was very very difficult, and a lot of work, but well worth it.I've only felt the "brain haze" (I call it) once since then, I took a gram and went for a long walk in the forest, back to no haze. It's been about 7/8 months and I can feel the "haze" building in my mind again, so I plan to do another 1g in the forest sometime in the coming weeks. However, my personal experience has been that Psilocybin != Psilocybin - the mushroom itself is super important to the process, much like Indica and Sativa have different ways of connecting you to the mind and the aether, Psilocybin (at least for me) VERY much is the same thing, and it's much starker than cannabis is. Getting into woo-woo land here so apologize: I have some concern that just "Psilocybin" isn't a good prescription, that the "spirit" that works on you is unique to the mushroom family, and that both not knowing the mushroom to prescribe and also being clinical about it (Psilocybin vs Mushroom) may not be a good direction to go in to help people with their issues. I also think that about LSD, it might work a bit for a while, but imo it's not the best tool.
- samatman 2y ago
  Anecdotal case study involving a community of about a hundred enthusiasts: many in this community held the opinion you do, which is that something about the mushrooms themselves is unique to the psilocin experience (psilocybin is not always present, and in any case, metabolizes to psilocin). Then 4-actyl DMT, sometimes call psilacetin, became broadly available. This is a synthetic pro-drug for psilocin, just as psilocybin is a naturally-occurring pro-drug for psilocin. After that, the opinion that the mushroom per se had anything to do with the experience became very rare. It turns out that psilocin is meaningfully different from, in particular, LSD, 2C-B, and MD(M)A. There's definitely something special about it. But that something is also present when it comes in vitro, not just in vivo.
- tristanMatthias 2y ago
  Totally agree. The variance between species can be dramatic! 2.5 grams of Golden teacher was a standard trip, vs 0.5 grams of PES Amazonian was enough to send my friend into a full blown “awakening” (physical responses and everything). It’s fascinating how they can hit different. Also important to keep in mind the same dose can hit someone different each time depending on surrounding life conditions. I’m a big believer that the mushrooms “show you what you need to see” at any given moment, and that can sometimes range considerably.

M4v3R 2y ago

Thanks for sharing this, you’re not the only one. I have a close friend who tried LSD as a last resort to get the best of his severe depression and suicidal thoughts (after being on SSRIs for his entire life) and just one session completely removed his suicidal thoughts for months. After this experience he repeats this whenever he feels the dark thoughts are coming back and it always curbs them down almost completely. It’s mind-blowing how well it worked for him.

fsckboy 2y ago
just consider, if it's so powerful in adjusting his brain, it's probably equally powerful in adjusting anybody's brain, and what if your brain doesn't need adjustment? there's no reason to think it's "idempotent" so to speak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idempotence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idempotence is the property of certain operations in mathematics and computer science whereby they can be applied multiple times without changing the result beyond the initial application
- yieldcrv 2y ago
  everyone considers that, but because they’ll be dead by the time the studies narrow down anything they chose the substance that moves them towards results - or doesn’t everyone can perceive that psychedelic is doing many highly variable things at once and probably shouldn't be recommended, so they just say their experience
  - fsckboy 2y ago
    the vast majority of people who try psychedelics are not trying to escape untreatable clinical depression, they are doing it recreationally, for a roller coaster ride which they believe connects them with the Almighty or the Unknowable or the Dao or the All-loving Everpresent or the "insert word that sounds profound" <-- oh, the Profundity! These people are inspired—perhaps by the Almighty, i'm not judging—to preach The Gospel of psychedelics and praise any confirmation of these miracles. I'm simply pointing out that what appears to be the Omnipotence of the Almighty might very well be Selling Your Soul to the Devil for all you know. I'm an atheist, simply using metaphor to get the point across to you. When you talk about how powerful medication is in warping the brain to cure intractable mental problems, that is not at all an endorsement of recreational use. Heroin makes you feel like your mother not only loves you, but makes up for her not loving when she abandoned you as a baby. Is heroin therefore a good idea? (and if you say "that's chemical dependency", you completely miss the point)

foobiekr 2y ago

Same. I came to them as an older person (late 40s) who basically had only tried pot a few times prior, and nothing at all before late thirties. I don't drink. My few experiences, the first few times, over the course of a year, spread apart by 3-4 months, went from extremely dark to .. just positive, except the last one, where I had no visuals, no bliss at all, and just came to terms with something else in our lives that was going wrong. The dark ones were rage and anger, and now it seems just gone, like there's nothing there. Like a weight lifted, and seemingly long term.

ghnws 2y ago

SSRIs did the same for me.

whalesalad 2y ago

Same. Grew them myself. Microdose regularly. Take big trips once in a while. It completely changed my life.

hilux 2y ago

That is so wonderful to hear!

andoando 2y ago

Can you share some info on how much you took, and in what setting you took them, what you did on the trip, etc? I have a bunch of shrooms sitting in my cabinet but I havent had got any life altering effect out of them.

Traubenfuchs 2y ago
Same: I saw crazy stuff, but when the effects wore off, nothing had changed.
- seec 2y ago
  Yes, that's pretty normal, that's actually expected behavior. I think people saying it changed stuff are the ones having a problem in the first place (reality perception, lack of sensitivity or whatever). Just like alcohol, those things are basically a poison, that you do not die from, provided you don't overdose (you probably have more chance dying of alcohol than mushrooms but still...). People should take them to have a bit of fun, just like getting inebriated with alcohol and moving on with their life. Beware of people who tries to pretend more, that are most likely full of shit and you can probably ignore most things they say if they lie about that...
- andoando 2y ago
  This would actually be my preferred trip. I just want to have fun, its been so long since I had genuine good fun. Im tired of all the mental reflection.

puffybuf 2y ago

I'm want to try them. I figure growing them myself is the safest way to go. Got 10 bags of Uncle Ben's brown rice growing mycelium right now.

aorloff 2y ago
If you are in the sf bay area, you can just go get what seems to be a variety of high quality, and some tested and stamped (Netherlands) mushroom products at Church of the Zide Door

arunix 2y ago

That sounds great. How can I try it?