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Alexei Navalny's Prison Diaries
- ossobuco 2y ago[flagged]
- Phiwise_ 2y agoThe arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward realpolitik.
- kombine 2y agoLike many of us, Russians, Navalny was subject to the innate imperial mindset, and his political views were right-wing (not something that I personally agree with). Nevertheless, he was the one who recognised the evil nature of Putin's regime very early on, in fact much earlier than 2014, when Russia launched its aggression against Ukraine. Perhaps, if the world listened to the warnings by Navalny and others in Russian opposition, we could have avoided this tragedy.
- grugagag 2y agoAs a non Russian Im surprised Navalny fate isn’t talked about more in the west, including this being flagged on HN. When it comes to his political views even if Im not aligned I understand where he was coming from. He certainly didn’t diserve to be killed.
- r721 2y agoMasha Gessen on this topic: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-evolution-of-alexey-navalnys-nationalism https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-evolution-...
- keybored 2y agoStrange bedfellows. The non-binary and LGBTQ activist is apparently able to look beyond the “cockroaches” comment. Such nuance we are able to discover when we need to circle the wagon on the West’s anti-Russian regime symbol.
- itohihiyt 2y agoCertainly pro Russian propaganda wants him dismissed like this and compared to murderers for comments made over 15 years ago. I'm sure those comments justify all that happened to him and discredit everything he subsequently did... /s
- lawn 2y agoYou can look at it the other way: Russia is so far gone that even the opponents of the current leaders in Russia are crazy by western standards. The same is true for the critics of the Ukrainan invasion. They dont want it to stop, they want to attack Ukraine even harder.
- itohihiyt 2y agoI think my main issue is this modern need for "heros" to be beacons of all virtual who from birth never said or did anything that anyone in the future of humanity will ever disagree with. And if they fail at that they are scum.
- Geezus_42 2y agoI don't think "crazy by western standards" applies here considering the West' treatment of Muslims. Our right wing is just as insane, uncaring, and racist.
- CBarkleyU 2y agoDon't bother. Humans always need a good and evil, and by nature the enemy of evil has to be good. I've had this conversation many times, it doesn't lead to anything. If Hamas is bad, then anything that Isreal does in order to eliminate Hamas, has to be good. If Russia is bad, than anything that Ukraine does, has to be good. If Putin is bad, than Nawalny has to be good. If Erdoğan is bad, than İmamoğlu has to be good. This is obviously just as true vice versa, so it's not like the "other side" is any more reasonable to have a discussion with.
- kombine 2y ago> Russia is so far gone that even the opponents of the current leaders in Russia are crazy by western standards. This is all well and good, but somehow fascist Israeli leadership (not just Netanyahu but even Israeli "opposition") are totally fine according to "western standards" and receive western weapons and diplomatic support.
- avazhi 2y ago“ Ah, the guy who referred to muslims as "cockroaches" and advocated for their extermination” Religious affiliation, as opposed to race or nationality, is a conscious and deliberate choice. If you choose to hitch a ride on a hateful, nihilistic, fatalistic, genocidal, and invariably uncompromising ideology that insists on complete supremacy and subjugation of non-believers, then don’t be surprised when those non-believers, in a tit for tat common sense sort of way, say untoward things about you.
- cebu_blue 2y agoSometimes you come across a comment so wrong and hateful that I guess most people don't know what to say and close the tab and go outside when they read it.
- notpushkin 2y agohttps://archive.md/S5MmA https://archive.md/S5MmA
- tomohawk 2y agoI knew from the outset that I would be imprisoned for life—either for the rest of my life or until the end of the life of this regime. Regimes like this one are resilient, and the most foolish thing I could do is pay attention to people who say, “Lyosha, sure, the regime is going to last at least another year, but the year after that, two at most, it will fall apart and you will be a free man.” And everything along those lines. People write that to me frequently. The U.S.S.R. lasted seventy years. The repressive regimes in North Korea and Cuba survive to this day. China, with a whole bunch of political prisoners, has lasted so long that those prisoners grow old and die in prison. The Chinese regime does not relent. It releases no one, despite all the international pressure. The truth of the matter is that we underestimate just how resilient autocracies are in the modern world. With very, very rare exceptions, they are protected from external invasion by the U.N., by international law, by the rights of sovereignty. Russia, which right now is waging a classic war of aggression against Ukraine (which has increased tenfold the predictions of the regime’s imminent collapse), is additionally protected by its membership in the U.N. Security Council and its nuclear weapons.
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- timeon 2y agoI'm afraid this whatouboutism is bit weak here since, unlike Assange, Navalny was killed.
- cryptoboy2283 2y ago[flagged]
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- notpushkin 2y agoYour other comments being flagged is not a good reason to just post the same thing again.
- ossobuco 2y ago[flagged]
- aguaviva 2y agoAnd then fully reversed itself on that decision just a few months later (May 7 2021): Following careful evaluation Amnesty International has decided to re-designate Alexei Navalny as a “Prisoner of Conscience”. https://archive.md/dpF0M https://archive.md/dpF0M Navalny's statements about minority groups, which he later came to a regret, are a matter of the past. But here in the present moment -- for some reason, you are spreading objectively false narratives which are helpful to no one. Why is that?
- ossobuco 2y agoI simply stated two facts. There is no narrative except the one you are extrapolating. I'm sorry if you don't like reality but it's not my fault. But hey, the post itself was flagged. I'm glad that glorification of fascists isn't openly accepted on HN.
- aguaviva 2y agoI simply stated two facts https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission
- ossobuco 2y agoSomeone who makes that kind of statements intentionally and publicly while building a political platform on it is simply irrecoverable. I don't really care if a few years later he found out that it was politically more convenient for him to fall in line with western values. He was a fascist crook either way. Shame on so-called "liberals" who glorify him.
- sevensor 2y agoIt’s remarkable what people will do in the name of principle. Walk into police batons. Accept a death in prison. Raid Harper’s Ferry and see your sons perish. Stand in front of an advancing tank. Most of us haven’t, most of us won’t. What makes those people so intransigent? Is it their circumstances? Are they doing what any honest person would do, or are they driven further, by something else?
- sevensor 2y agoI want to be clear that I’m not complaining about the downvote, honestly I was expecting more of them. It’s rather that between when I started this comment and when I finished it, the thread vanished from the front page and became essentially impossible to find. So that’s my question here: how did somebody even find this thread to downvote my comment? Can I pull more downvotes by discussing the details of the June 4th incident? Here’s a helpful Wikipedia page on the subject: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protes... You see, what happened was, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army massacred a large number of civilian protesters whose anti corruption, pro democracy views were seen as a threat to the regime. I’m posting this in the name of science. Nobody with reasonable reading habits is going to see this. Are there people out there with unreasonable reading habits?