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I'm not sure why I would want a local terminal (or a VM) on my phone... Sure, it runs Linux, but at the end of the day, it's a phone. The only thing I could f

I'm not sure why I would want a local terminal (or a VM) on my phone... Sure, it runs Linux, but at the end of the day, it's a phone. The only thing I could find a use for it, would be to run adb to uninstall bloat without needing a computer.

exe34 2y ago
I run a simple python server on a directory of html files, these are generated whenever I save something in emacs on my laptop (and get synced by mgit). I sometimes use ssh to log into my laptop from another room on my phone to check something. you might not use these things, but some of us like our computers to serve us, not the other way round.
- nubinetwork 2y ago
  > I sometimes use ssh to log into my laptop from another room on my phone to check something. While Connectbot can connect to the local terminal, using it to connect to another computer is rather trivial... > I run a simple python server on a directory of html files, these are generated whenever I save something in emacs on my laptop (and get synced by mgit). And you do that on your phone? Openly accessible to your carrier, and the rest of the internet?
  - exe34 2y ago
    it's because "opening" an html file only means it remains open for a few minutes and then the file manager gets garbage collected and if you close the web browser and reopen it, the page is not accessible. They intentionally gimp local file access, because they make money from selling cloud services. My threat model does not include nation states/carrier attacks, the information I hold is not considered illegal yet.
seba_dos1 2y ago
At the end of the day, it's a general purpose pocket computer with phone capabilities. But I can see that if all you ever ran on your "smartphones" was Android or iOS, then you may think about them as merely appliances.
thesuperbigfrog 2y ago
>> I'm not sure why I would want a local terminal (or a VM) on my phone... Sure, it runs Linux, but at the end of the day, it's a phone. It is a pocket-sized portable computer that can also make phone calls. You might not want to use it for general purpose computing tasks, but I do. With Termux I can SSH into other machines, compile code, build web pages, and a variety of other things. It's not perfect, but it works for a lot of stuff. I would love to have a fully-featured desktop convergence solution so I could plug in a keyboard, mouse, and monitor and have a full desktop environment. Android kind of works, but it's really clunky and some apps don't handle it very well. I totally see this as a move to replace ChromeOS with Android. Why? It's all about the apps. Practically no one is building applications for ChromeOS, whereas Android has millions of apps. That's why they added the ability to run Android apps on ChromeOS and deprecated Chrome apps. ChromeOS also has relatively low adoption compared to Android so it would simplify and consolidate the engineering and support efforts and costs.

exe34 2y ago

I run a simple python server on a directory of html files, these are generated whenever I save something in emacs on my laptop (and get synced by mgit). I sometimes use ssh to log into my laptop from another room on my phone to check something. you might not use these things, but some of us like our computers to serve us, not the other way round.

nubinetwork 2y ago
> I sometimes use ssh to log into my laptop from another room on my phone to check something. While Connectbot can connect to the local terminal, using it to connect to another computer is rather trivial... > I run a simple python server on a directory of html files, these are generated whenever I save something in emacs on my laptop (and get synced by mgit). And you do that on your phone? Openly accessible to your carrier, and the rest of the internet?
- exe34 2y ago
  it's because "opening" an html file only means it remains open for a few minutes and then the file manager gets garbage collected and if you close the web browser and reopen it, the page is not accessible. They intentionally gimp local file access, because they make money from selling cloud services. My threat model does not include nation states/carrier attacks, the information I hold is not considered illegal yet.

seba_dos1 2y ago

At the end of the day, it's a general purpose pocket computer with phone capabilities. But I can see that if all you ever ran on your "smartphones" was Android or iOS, then you may think about them as merely appliances.

thesuperbigfrog 2y ago

>> I'm not sure why I would want a local terminal (or a VM) on my phone... Sure, it runs Linux, but at the end of the day, it's a phone. It is a pocket-sized portable computer that can also make phone calls. You might not want to use it for general purpose computing tasks, but I do. With Termux I can SSH into other machines, compile code, build web pages, and a variety of other things. It's not perfect, but it works for a lot of stuff. I would love to have a fully-featured desktop convergence solution so I could plug in a keyboard, mouse, and monitor and have a full desktop environment. Android kind of works, but it's really clunky and some apps don't handle it very well. I totally see this as a move to replace ChromeOS with Android. Why? It's all about the apps. Practically no one is building applications for ChromeOS, whereas Android has millions of apps. That's why they added the ability to run Android apps on ChromeOS and deprecated Chrome apps. ChromeOS also has relatively low adoption compared to Android so it would simplify and consolidate the engineering and support efforts and costs.