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It's been teased for a while now see also @kdrag0n 's work; putting Virtualized linux (and windows) on Android phones https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3032

It's been teased for a while now see also @kdrag0n 's work; putting Virtualized linux (and windows) on Android phones https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30322035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30322035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30328692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30328692 Old comment of mine in another thread: Our phones might be our next Desktops/Laptops/main personal computing device: 1. local first (you do go to the bathroom/gas station with your phone) 2. portable 3. reduce ewaste, money spent The lack of convenience in the form of larger screen might be mitigated using smart glasses, projector(unihertz tank 3 has built in), or just connect to an external monitor Snapdragon 8 gen 3 performs like cpu from 2020 and midtier gpu from 2016 AVF might ship with android 15 as Mainline module (One need kernel 5.10+) Windows on arm is progressing (qcom snapdragon elite chipset on microsoft surface devices), qcom gunyah hypervisor, MediaTek's GenieZone hypervisor, winlator etc..

transpute 2y ago
Apple hardware (M2 onward) includes hardware support for the nested virtualization used by pKVM.
- adonese 2y ago
  I hope that will allow for more "usability" for ipads. (yes, for ipad + keyboard you might as well just have macbook air, but maybe at least let's have that option)
  - ffsm8 2y ago
    The only reason why iPads aren't just as usable as laptops is entirely on Apple's decision to limit it to iPadOS/iOS If they'd just let you transition to regular macOS after connecting a screen/mode/keyboard, it'd be just as powerful as a MacBook. They already use the same CPUs and have just as much RAM
    - mdp2021 2y ago
      If their customers forgive that, they have really lured a demographic set.
      - transpute 2y ago
        The closest alternative is Pixel (7) Tablet, which doesn't support external display and was not updated in 2024.
rty32 2y ago
I haven't seen any updates than those first screenshots, almost making me wonder if this is real. I do a search every few months to see if someone created a tool that allows anyone to run Windows/Linux on Android. Nope. Because I really want to do something really meaningful on my Galaxy Tab other than just watching YouTube or web browsing.
- transpute 2y ago
  ChromeOS on Android demo with AVF/pKVM, https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-on-android-hands-on-2-3442510/ https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-on-android-hands-...
- ykonstant 2y ago
  With termux I can do this, which is good enough for my needs: https://i.redd.it/p5h7ongm51541.jpg https://i.redd.it/p5h7ongm51541.jpg
  - rty32 2y ago
    Looks like this is still terminal application (is that vim?)? I was thinking about full desktop applications like vscode
    - tcrenshaw 2y ago
      There is termux x11 now, which allows you to run graphical applications, though it's a bit fiddly. https://github.com/termux/termux-x11 https://github.com/termux/termux-x11
      - mdp2021 2y ago
        Why "fiddly"? It seems to work very well...
- user070223 2y ago
  If you're talking about kdrag0n's work he had it in his pateron and I think Mishaal Rahman had tried it. Hopefuly he'll pop up in this thread and clarify what happened to it
fsflover 2y ago
> Our phones might be our next Desktops/Laptops/main personal computing device This is already reality with GNU/Linux phones: https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/ https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/

transpute 2y ago

Apple hardware (M2 onward) includes hardware support for the nested virtualization used by pKVM.

adonese 2y ago
I hope that will allow for more "usability" for ipads. (yes, for ipad + keyboard you might as well just have macbook air, but maybe at least let's have that option)
- ffsm8 2y ago
  The only reason why iPads aren't just as usable as laptops is entirely on Apple's decision to limit it to iPadOS/iOS If they'd just let you transition to regular macOS after connecting a screen/mode/keyboard, it'd be just as powerful as a MacBook. They already use the same CPUs and have just as much RAM
  - mdp2021 2y ago
    If their customers forgive that, they have really lured a demographic set.
    - transpute 2y ago
      The closest alternative is Pixel (7) Tablet, which doesn't support external display and was not updated in 2024.

rty32 2y ago

I haven't seen any updates than those first screenshots, almost making me wonder if this is real. I do a search every few months to see if someone created a tool that allows anyone to run Windows/Linux on Android. Nope. Because I really want to do something really meaningful on my Galaxy Tab other than just watching YouTube or web browsing.

transpute 2y ago
ChromeOS on Android demo with AVF/pKVM, https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-on-android-hands-on-2-3442510/ https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-on-android-hands-...
ykonstant 2y ago
With termux I can do this, which is good enough for my needs: https://i.redd.it/p5h7ongm51541.jpg https://i.redd.it/p5h7ongm51541.jpg
- rty32 2y ago
  Looks like this is still terminal application (is that vim?)? I was thinking about full desktop applications like vscode
  - tcrenshaw 2y ago
    There is termux x11 now, which allows you to run graphical applications, though it's a bit fiddly. https://github.com/termux/termux-x11 https://github.com/termux/termux-x11
    - mdp2021 2y ago
      Why "fiddly"? It seems to work very well...
user070223 2y ago
If you're talking about kdrag0n's work he had it in his pateron and I think Mishaal Rahman had tried it. Hopefuly he'll pop up in this thread and clarify what happened to it

fsflover 2y ago

> Our phones might be our next Desktops/Laptops/main personal computing device This is already reality with GNU/Linux phones: https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/ https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/