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That would be a killer feature for me; it's already close with termux etc, but that's not good enough for some things. If it could run Docker as well... Can it

That would be a killer feature for me; it's already close with termux etc, but that's not good enough for some things. If it could run Docker as well... Can it on chromeos? Never used Chromeos.

profsummergig 2y ago
I think in ChromeOS you can run Linux (sort of like WSL2 in Windows). I don't think one can run Linux apps directly in ChromeOS. One can run Android apps directly in ChromeOS though.
- nolist_policy 2y ago
  Android on ChromeOS runs in a VM as well nowadays.
nolist_policy 2y ago
It can, on ChromeOS it's a fully featured Debian VM with seamless Wayland, VirGL and USB passtrough.
agilob 2y ago
Effortlessly hosting home assistant in a podman on my old android would be awesome.
fsflover 2y ago
My smartphone (Librem 5) already runs Linux apps, because it runs GNU/Linux.
- ruthmarx 2y ago
  How's the battery life? Can you still run Androids apps?
  - fsflover 2y ago
    The battery life is about a day, or 4-5 hours of screen time. Fortunately, the battery is replaceable without tools. Yes, Android apps in general work fine, apart from those relying on the DRM.
    - ruthmarx 2y ago
      So is it Linux with an Android emulation layer or the other way around? I was planning to buy a Fairphone but the Librem looks interesting.
      - fsflover 2y ago
        It's desktop Linux with Android API (not emulation, i.e., very fast; but currently lacks some features like the access to camera).
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        So Androids apps can't use the camera?
        fsflover 2y ago
        Not yet.
- anonzzzies 2y ago
  Yep, I was looking at the Liberty and also the tablet; I don't really care about the pricing (which is pretty mental, but for the good cause), however the specs are, well, not great for a linux machine that can actually do something. Especially the memory. It would be my daily driver (plugin to a monitor or xreal glasses) if it had 12 gb, but 4gb... that's not really a thing. I use my s24 for mostly everything and would love to move to something like this as I don't really like samsung (or android) that much, but let's up the memory eh. Like everywhere, memory is still what holds things back; I would pay $3k for the Liberty if it had 12-24gb, but he.
  - fsflover 2y ago
    4 GB is indeed quite limiting, but it was the only choice supporting free drivers at that time. Even with such low amount of RAM you can use it as desktop though: https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/ https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/ See also: https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/ https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/
    - anonzzzies 2y ago
      I agree with all of it, but the reality is that I need more memory and I understand that not many people (well, the author of the article you sent for one) are looking for this convergence. But I am. Especially with AI , it is becoming less and less a requirement for me to carry a laptop: it will be a combination of talking and typing to do whatever I need to do. With native linux I can already do that, without, it quite a pain for on phones. Or at least too much work for something that only I am going to use. But we will get there; guess the next one will be better.

That would be a killer feature for me; it's already close with termux etc, but that's not good enough for some things. If it could run Docker as well... Can it on chromeos? Never used Chromeos.

profsummergig 2y ago

I think in ChromeOS you can run Linux (sort of like WSL2 in Windows). I don't think one can run Linux apps directly in ChromeOS. One can run Android apps directly in ChromeOS though.

nolist_policy 2y ago
Android on ChromeOS runs in a VM as well nowadays.

nolist_policy 2y ago

It can, on ChromeOS it's a fully featured Debian VM with seamless Wayland, VirGL and USB passtrough.

agilob 2y ago

Effortlessly hosting home assistant in a podman on my old android would be awesome.

fsflover 2y ago

My smartphone (Librem 5) already runs Linux apps, because it runs GNU/Linux.

ruthmarx 2y ago
How's the battery life? Can you still run Androids apps?
- fsflover 2y ago
  The battery life is about a day, or 4-5 hours of screen time. Fortunately, the battery is replaceable without tools. Yes, Android apps in general work fine, apart from those relying on the DRM.
  - ruthmarx 2y ago
    So is it Linux with an Android emulation layer or the other way around? I was planning to buy a Fairphone but the Librem looks interesting.
    - fsflover 2y ago
      It's desktop Linux with Android API (not emulation, i.e., very fast; but currently lacks some features like the access to camera).
      - ruthmarx 2y ago
        So Androids apps can't use the camera?
        fsflover 2y ago
        Not yet.
anonzzzies 2y ago
Yep, I was looking at the Liberty and also the tablet; I don't really care about the pricing (which is pretty mental, but for the good cause), however the specs are, well, not great for a linux machine that can actually do something. Especially the memory. It would be my daily driver (plugin to a monitor or xreal glasses) if it had 12 gb, but 4gb... that's not really a thing. I use my s24 for mostly everything and would love to move to something like this as I don't really like samsung (or android) that much, but let's up the memory eh. Like everywhere, memory is still what holds things back; I would pay $3k for the Liberty if it had 12-24gb, but he.
- fsflover 2y ago
  4 GB is indeed quite limiting, but it was the only choice supporting free drivers at that time. Even with such low amount of RAM you can use it as desktop though: https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/ https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/ See also: https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/ https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/
  - anonzzzies 2y ago
    I agree with all of it, but the reality is that I need more memory and I understand that not many people (well, the author of the article you sent for one) are looking for this convergence. But I am. Especially with AI , it is becoming less and less a requirement for me to carry a laptop: it will be a combination of talking and typing to do whatever I need to do. With native linux I can already do that, without, it quite a pain for on phones. Or at least too much work for something that only I am going to use. But we will get there; guess the next one will be better.