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Way to be dismissive of poverty. The whole point is for many folk you literally cannot afford it, it isn’t “your life is worth some debt” it is “you do not hav
by olliej 2y ago
Way to be dismissive of poverty.
The whole point is for many folk you literally cannot afford it, it isn’t “your life is worth some debt” it is “you do not have money or credit that gives you an option”:
* having a car costs money, so many poor people don’t have one
* gas costs money, even people who do have one are often running on the minimum amount of gas, and literally cannot afford to fill the tank, let alone buy enough gas to get a meaningful distance, assuming the car is sufficiently reliable.
* taxis, uber/lyft (even with limits on price gouging/“surge pricing”) cost even more money and during an evacuation if they’re even available
* public transit for many folk is not an option (not available, under equipped, …) and often during evacuations is out of order because the transit operators are also trying to leave
So they literally cannot afford to leave.
You also have “can I afford to get fired”, as happened to those people who were killed due to their employer mandating they work until after the point of safe evacuation hit. With little to no employee protections a person who is on a week-to-week budget can become homeless if they’re fired, so the risk for “ignore evacuation warnings, you must come to work or you’re fired” is catastrophic.
I get that many people, especially on mediums like HN think they know what poverty is like because - for example - they had little to “no” money when they were students, but that’s still an unbelievably far cry from actual poverty.
For people in poverty claiming “you can afford it”, because of some “your life has value” nonsense completely disregards the whole concept of poverty. The literal point is that these are people who have nothing that can be used or converted into anything that can be used to escape.
Don’t suggest “then go on foot” either, because again dismissive, but I’d also hope very obviously a bad plan for anyone.
- DANmode 2y agoHow about "you may not be able to afford not to"? Uber was free in at least one area of FL.
- mrgoldenbrown 2y agoUber isn't going to house and feed you or your kids and pets.
- redeeman 2y agowell first step is getting away from an area that might well rapidly kill them?
- olliej 2y agoThe “free Ubers” are to/from local shelters as far as I can make out. They’re not an option for people who need to actually evacuate the area. Who are the people the article is about. There are lots of options available for people, except those in poverty as there are no free long distance evacuation and return services. You also say “at least they’ll be alive”, but you’re assuming their options at the other end are meaningfully better than risking just bunkering down where they are (especially in light of the US Supreme Court allowing criminalization of homelessness).