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I'd really like to see how the American libertarian copes with the return to office mandates. I've had a lot of American colleagues that do not wish to return

I'd really like to see how the American libertarian copes with the return to office mandates. I've had a lot of American colleagues that do not wish to return to office, the types that believe in "freedom", "individual responsibility" and "if you do not like the job go work somewhere else". As the employers are closing in on them, they slowly start to understand that unless they collectively punch back they _will_ yield sooner or later. They are still on their pleading / "negotiating" phase at the moment, but let us see.

Clubber 2y ago
>I'd really like to see how the American libertarian copes with the return to office mandates. The American libertarian will just move to a job that allows remote. >As the employers are closing in on them, they slowly start to understand that unless they collectively punch back they _will_ yield sooner or later. Believe me, companies stand to lose a lot more with an empty dev team than any dev stands to lose moving to another company. RTO companies better have some damn good reasons to work there if they require asses in seats. Companies that don't (most) will struggle and wither.
- wiseowise 2y ago
  > Believe me, companies stand to lose a lot more with an empty dev team than any dev stands to lose moving to another company. This process might take years or even decade of decay until company feels the pain. They might lose in the long run, but unless all high productivity employees leave in an instant you’re the one to lose in the short run.
  - Clubber 2y ago
    >all high productivity employees leave in an instant That almost never happens, unless a company enacts a very unpopular policy and there are many opportunities for high productivity tech employees elsewhere. That sounds a lot like right now.
    - wiseowise 2y ago
      > That sounds a lot like right now. Given mixed responses that I’ve heard about RTO - I doubt that.

Clubber 2y ago

>I'd really like to see how the American libertarian copes with the return to office mandates. The American libertarian will just move to a job that allows remote. >As the employers are closing in on them, they slowly start to understand that unless they collectively punch back they _will_ yield sooner or later. Believe me, companies stand to lose a lot more with an empty dev team than any dev stands to lose moving to another company. RTO companies better have some damn good reasons to work there if they require asses in seats. Companies that don't (most) will struggle and wither.

wiseowise 2y ago
> Believe me, companies stand to lose a lot more with an empty dev team than any dev stands to lose moving to another company. This process might take years or even decade of decay until company feels the pain. They might lose in the long run, but unless all high productivity employees leave in an instant you’re the one to lose in the short run.
- Clubber 2y ago
  >all high productivity employees leave in an instant That almost never happens, unless a company enacts a very unpopular policy and there are many opportunities for high productivity tech employees elsewhere. That sounds a lot like right now.
  - wiseowise 2y ago
    > That sounds a lot like right now. Given mixed responses that I’ve heard about RTO - I doubt that.