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> Possible effective solutions to the US obesity epidemic Just wanted to mention that this is not a US problem, and framing it as such won't help find solution

> Possible effective solutions to the US obesity epidemic Just wanted to mention that this is not a US problem, and framing it as such won't help find solutions. Even in southeast Asia the rates over obesity are steadily increasing. Europe is already much fatter than southeast Asia. This is a worldwide phenomenon.

vundercind 2y ago
It is global, but the US is among the leaders and people who move here from skinnier countries tend to get fatter. Something about (odds are, a bunch of somethings about) the living environment we’ve created causes more obesity than the environments in most other countries, though yes, it’s getting worse in those other countries, too.
sschueller 2y ago
I would argue that the US has some fault to why other western nations are getting fatter. All of the US's worst fast food chains and food products have been exported. In my tiny city a Carl's Jr. Just opened! There is McDonald's, Burger King and Starbucks everywhere. There are also Dunkin donuts in the supermarket as well as oreos. In contrast there arent any Asian or Russian restaurants chains here. Local foods have become sweeter in order to compete and there are so many local burger restaurants now it's like I have moved to the US.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  > US has some fault That's par for the course, the world does love to blame us for their problems. Then they bitch when anyone suggests we've made some choices in the last 100 years that made their lives noticeably better (hello Marshall Plan!). > have been exported That's a convenient spin on "have been imported." Do you not make your own choices? If you don't want the crappy fast food, quit making your own copies of it! Since it's kind of on point for this discussion, I just thought I'd mention one amusing thing I noticed in London -- you can buy higher calorie McDonalds food there. I could get a sasusage mcmuffin with two patties, which isn't a thing in the US. I almost wanted to do it just for the laughs, but frankly the UK version of McDonalds tastes even worse than the US version. I'm not sure exactly how that's possible. Y'all should stop importing the shittiest excuses for 'American' food. A lot of us never eat at these places in spite of them being so prevalent. We have a lot of great restaurants, even some of the ones that qualify as fast food.
  - ornornor 2y ago
    > If you don't want the crappy fast food, quit making your own copies of it! “If alcohol is bad for you, quit drinking it!” “If crack is bad for you, quit taking it!” My point is that there is more to it than that. You make like it’s a choice governed by free will when we know that fatty and sweet foods are addictive and harder to resist.
aucisson_masque 2y ago
USA is the worst by a long stretch. I believe it's 80% of the USA population that is overweight. Being fit there is statistically considered an anomaly. I don't know of any other country where you would be weird because you're fit.
- Schiendelman 2y ago
  I believe the UK is quite similar.

vundercind 2y ago

It is global, but the US is among the leaders and people who move here from skinnier countries tend to get fatter. Something about (odds are, a bunch of somethings about) the living environment we’ve created causes more obesity than the environments in most other countries, though yes, it’s getting worse in those other countries, too.

sschueller 2y ago

I would argue that the US has some fault to why other western nations are getting fatter. All of the US's worst fast food chains and food products have been exported. In my tiny city a Carl's Jr. Just opened! There is McDonald's, Burger King and Starbucks everywhere. There are also Dunkin donuts in the supermarket as well as oreos. In contrast there arent any Asian or Russian restaurants chains here. Local foods have become sweeter in order to compete and there are so many local burger restaurants now it's like I have moved to the US.

rootusrootus 2y ago
> US has some fault That's par for the course, the world does love to blame us for their problems. Then they bitch when anyone suggests we've made some choices in the last 100 years that made their lives noticeably better (hello Marshall Plan!). > have been exported That's a convenient spin on "have been imported." Do you not make your own choices? If you don't want the crappy fast food, quit making your own copies of it! Since it's kind of on point for this discussion, I just thought I'd mention one amusing thing I noticed in London -- you can buy higher calorie McDonalds food there. I could get a sasusage mcmuffin with two patties, which isn't a thing in the US. I almost wanted to do it just for the laughs, but frankly the UK version of McDonalds tastes even worse than the US version. I'm not sure exactly how that's possible. Y'all should stop importing the shittiest excuses for 'American' food. A lot of us never eat at these places in spite of them being so prevalent. We have a lot of great restaurants, even some of the ones that qualify as fast food.
- ornornor 2y ago
  > If you don't want the crappy fast food, quit making your own copies of it! “If alcohol is bad for you, quit drinking it!” “If crack is bad for you, quit taking it!” My point is that there is more to it than that. You make like it’s a choice governed by free will when we know that fatty and sweet foods are addictive and harder to resist.

aucisson_masque 2y ago

USA is the worst by a long stretch. I believe it's 80% of the USA population that is overweight. Being fit there is statistically considered an anomaly. I don't know of any other country where you would be weird because you're fit.

Schiendelman 2y ago
I believe the UK is quite similar.