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Ozempic and similar drugs are being used by many to get rid of the food noise and insatiable hunger that have stood in the way of sustainable progress. These dr

Ozempic and similar drugs are being used by many to get rid of the food noise and insatiable hunger that have stood in the way of sustainable progress. These drugs are being used as catalysts for healthy living. The fact that they seem to work thus far is evidence that obesity is on some level driven by powerful hormonal forces that influence impulse control and willpower, which addressed, can give people the freedom to make better decisions and effectively pursue a lifestyle they've struggled to maintain. The cosmetic narrative you're pushing is actually quite disgusting.

akira2501 2y ago
> These drugs are being used as catalysts for healthy living. You have some evidence for this claim? > is evidence that obesity is on some level driven by powerful hormonal forces It's suggestive. It's nowhere near evidence. > the freedom to make better decisions As long as they're on the drug. > The cosmetic narrative you're pushing is actually quite disgusting. No it isn't. It's a valid concern about how this medication is _marketed_ and _dispensed_. It's also an obvious concern to have. Pretending that I'm disgusting because I'm actually worried about the future outcomes for these patients is bullying highroad nonsense. Come off of it.
- crooked-v 2y ago
  > You have some evidence for this claim? The obvious evidence is the result of the drug, i.e., overweight people losing weight because they're eating less.
  - akira2501 2y ago
    The obvious countertpoint is that obesity rates have not been constant for the last few decades. So there are clearly multiple factors here and those should be taken into consideration before uncritically deciding this is a "good thing" that we should "all be on."
    - crooked-v 2y ago
      > that we should "all be on." Who, exactly, has claimed that?
- poorinterview 2y ago
  I've been on Zepbound since July and have lost 40lbs in that time through calorie restriction, intermittent fasting, and resistance training 3x per week, which all felt like impossibly herculean tasks before starting the medication. I know others who've had similar experiences. Sorry I haven't published a paper on it.

akira2501 2y ago

> These drugs are being used as catalysts for healthy living. You have some evidence for this claim? > is evidence that obesity is on some level driven by powerful hormonal forces It's suggestive. It's nowhere near evidence. > the freedom to make better decisions As long as they're on the drug. > The cosmetic narrative you're pushing is actually quite disgusting. No it isn't. It's a valid concern about how this medication is _marketed_ and _dispensed_. It's also an obvious concern to have. Pretending that I'm disgusting because I'm actually worried about the future outcomes for these patients is bullying highroad nonsense. Come off of it.

crooked-v 2y ago
> You have some evidence for this claim? The obvious evidence is the result of the drug, i.e., overweight people losing weight because they're eating less.
- akira2501 2y ago
  The obvious countertpoint is that obesity rates have not been constant for the last few decades. So there are clearly multiple factors here and those should be taken into consideration before uncritically deciding this is a "good thing" that we should "all be on."
  - crooked-v 2y ago
    > that we should "all be on." Who, exactly, has claimed that?
poorinterview 2y ago
I've been on Zepbound since July and have lost 40lbs in that time through calorie restriction, intermittent fasting, and resistance training 3x per week, which all felt like impossibly herculean tasks before starting the medication. I know others who've had similar experiences. Sorry I haven't published a paper on it.