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And the argument you are replying to is that it's just covering up a symptom and not addressing the root problem holistically. Ozempic isn't a fix, it's a banda
by giantg2 2y ago
And the argument you are replying to is that it's just covering up a symptom and not addressing the root problem holistically. Ozempic isn't a fix, it's a bandaid.
- sokoloff 2y agoBandaids serve a genuinely useful health-promoting purpose. I suspect we'll find the same is true of GLP-1s even if it only addresses part of the entire problem.
- giantg2 2y agoOnly when applied correctly and with other interventions. Using ozempic without diet and exercise changes is like putting a bandaid on a .5" deep wound without sterilizing it.
- fragmede 2y agobecause ozempic reduces the food cravings, patients are able to implement and stick with a diet change. it's not like "put down that cheeseburger and have a salad" is something they haven't heard before and haven't internalized already, it's just their brain won't do it. ozempic gives them the space on their brain to actually do it.
- ProfessorLayton 2y agoThe drug works by suppressing appetite. Eating less of the same things is still a dietary change. Exercise is recommended for everyone, regardless of weight.
- hombre_fatal 2y agoSure, but so what? Until we can permanently change aspects of our brain, like our proclivity for addiction, then all interventions are bandaids on top of an underlying problem. Even behavioral changes like avoiding fast food don't fix the underlying problem in your brain. It's topical. It's amazing how the subject of Ozempic brings out such trivial claims uttered with a serious face.
- eightysixfour 2y agoThe "obesity is a moral failing" argument has an exceptionally strong hold on people.
- giantg2 2y agoWay to strawman. That's not what I said.
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- eightysixfour 2y agoAlright, what is the root cause we are putting a band-aid on, exactly?
- giantg2 2y agoThe combination of bad diet and lack of exercise. Specifically in the context of this conversation, its about how ozempic will not fix a bad diet. Eating less of a bad diet is better than eating more of a bad diet, but is still a bad diet in the end.
- eightysixfour 2y agoRight - why do people eat a bad diet?
- giantg2 2y agoPreference
- giantg2 2y agoAnd using ozempic without those diet changes is the same damn thing. You need to work on it from both directions.
- mrweasel 2y ago> Ozempic isn't a fix, it's a bandaid. My original impression was that it was suppose to be a crutch, helping you get started on a healthy lifestyle. So if you are to heavy to exercise without hurting yourself it could help you lose that initial weight. Or it can help you with your appetit, while you adjust your diet. You also can't stay on Ozempic, you have to continuously increase you dose to get the same effect, so it's simply not viable to keep taking it for an extend period of time. That's at least the impression I've been getting from talking to people working at pharmacies.
- kelseyfrog 2y agoThat's great. We still give crutches to people who break their legs and bandaids to people with wounds. We don't tell them that being completely healed is better than using those aids.