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I don't know if I agree with the hypothesis that college or an education is seen as "effeminate" and therefore turning off male students. The proposal in the f

I don't know if I agree with the hypothesis that college or an education is seen as "effeminate" and therefore turning off male students. The proposal in the footnote: > If you actually wanted a solution for boys to want to go to college, bring back male-only colleges. Watch college suddenly become really popular for boys again. Is absolutely laughable. I find it hard to believe that all else being equal, a potential straight, male college student is going to bias towards an all-male school because he won't feel emasculated. All such a school would produce is a bunch of boys with fragile egos, faltering at the thought of anything but working in a "good ol' boys" club with a "NO WOMEN ALLOWED" sign taped to the entrance. Were men always such snowflakes? Edit: the comments are just as ridiculous: > I hadn't thought about it before, but if sizeable numbers of women started entering the workforce I would leave. Workplaces with large female cohorts are substantially different...Also.. at the risk of making people angry, have you considered that when all the men leave, things get a bit shit? Yeah, the problem isn't masculinity nor a mixed gender work environment. It's mindsets like this.

s1artibartfast 2y ago
>Yeah, the problem isn't masculinity nor a mixed gender work environment. It's mindsets like this. The stronger interpretation of this point is not about mixed gender work environments, but heavily skewed ones. Just as women may feel uncomfortable and face challenges in a heavily skewed workplace, men (also being human) have the same experience when the roles are reversed. I dont think I would want to work somewhere that was 4:1 women.
- CharlieDigital 2y ago
  > I dont think I would want to work somewhere that was 4:1 women Please, do articulate why. I'd love to read it.
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    In short, I think it would be exhausting to continually mask and conform to the workplace norms. On average, I think there are differences in how genders behave and interact, and these influence the workplace dynamic and culture. I prefer a more mixed environment where I feel I can be myself and capitalize on my natural behavior. It is not dissimilar to how I feel about social gatherings. As a man, I can and do go to events that are 4:1 women, queer, or whatever, but I would not be happy if they made up the entirety of my social life. Im curious if you relate.
AStonesThrow 2y ago
You know, I attended an all-boys high school, and the cavalier, ignorant attitude exhibited above is exactly the kind of thing that routinely prevents and intimidates boys and men from pursuing the sort of education they deserve. My parents gave me two choices. Our neighborhood was close to three Catholic schools: one was co-ed, one was all-girls, and the other was all-boys. My father had attended the all-boys school, and the first time we visited, I found the computer lab well-stocked with machines I liked, and so it was a done deal from that day forward. I found the all-boys environment to be very comfortable, and it allowed many of us to be ourselves, just at that critical point of adolescent maturity when our individuality may have been hampered by social pressures of impressing girls, or being insulted/outperformed by girls. Our school has a close relationship with the all-girls one, and so we had many joint projects, such as plays in the drama department, school dances, and other social events. Summer school classes were open to girls as well, and so there was no shortage of girls around. There were also female teachers, in addition to the clergy and laymen who taught and coached there. I'll say it was just fine to have an all-boys locker room and all-boys P.E. because it was a time when I was extremely self-conscious about physical stuff. Our all-boys band helped me to grow and express myself. I really enjoyed it as an extra-curricular activity. Single-gender schools aren't for everyone. But I believe it's sort of a lost art today, when so many colleges have just collapsed into mixed-gender institutions, that indeed, young men are being emasculated and intimidated by strong feminine influences there.

s1artibartfast 2y ago

>Yeah, the problem isn't masculinity nor a mixed gender work environment. It's mindsets like this. The stronger interpretation of this point is not about mixed gender work environments, but heavily skewed ones. Just as women may feel uncomfortable and face challenges in a heavily skewed workplace, men (also being human) have the same experience when the roles are reversed. I dont think I would want to work somewhere that was 4:1 women.

CharlieDigital 2y ago
> I dont think I would want to work somewhere that was 4:1 women Please, do articulate why. I'd love to read it.
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  In short, I think it would be exhausting to continually mask and conform to the workplace norms. On average, I think there are differences in how genders behave and interact, and these influence the workplace dynamic and culture. I prefer a more mixed environment where I feel I can be myself and capitalize on my natural behavior. It is not dissimilar to how I feel about social gatherings. As a man, I can and do go to events that are 4:1 women, queer, or whatever, but I would not be happy if they made up the entirety of my social life. Im curious if you relate.

AStonesThrow 2y ago

You know, I attended an all-boys high school, and the cavalier, ignorant attitude exhibited above is exactly the kind of thing that routinely prevents and intimidates boys and men from pursuing the sort of education they deserve. My parents gave me two choices. Our neighborhood was close to three Catholic schools: one was co-ed, one was all-girls, and the other was all-boys. My father had attended the all-boys school, and the first time we visited, I found the computer lab well-stocked with machines I liked, and so it was a done deal from that day forward. I found the all-boys environment to be very comfortable, and it allowed many of us to be ourselves, just at that critical point of adolescent maturity when our individuality may have been hampered by social pressures of impressing girls, or being insulted/outperformed by girls. Our school has a close relationship with the all-girls one, and so we had many joint projects, such as plays in the drama department, school dances, and other social events. Summer school classes were open to girls as well, and so there was no shortage of girls around. There were also female teachers, in addition to the clergy and laymen who taught and coached there. I'll say it was just fine to have an all-boys locker room and all-boys P.E. because it was a time when I was extremely self-conscious about physical stuff. Our all-boys band helped me to grow and express myself. I really enjoyed it as an extra-curricular activity. Single-gender schools aren't for everyone. But I believe it's sort of a lost art today, when so many colleges have just collapsed into mixed-gender institutions, that indeed, young men are being emasculated and intimidated by strong feminine influences there.