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So does English, https://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-grammar/tense-changes-when-using-reported-speech/ https://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-gra
by brudgers 2y ago
So does English, https://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-grammar/tense-changes-when-using-reported-speech/ https://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-grammar/tense-c...
- namaria 2y agoNot the same thing. Reporting speech by saying 'subject said (...) [past tense verb] (...)' is not specific to English and doesn't carry the same nuance as the tweet implies this Turkish 'gossip' tense carries.
- brudgers 2y agoDifferent languages convey nuance with different mechanics. The only reason an English speaker would say "He said he would be at the airport" is to convey nuance. + He said he would be at the airport + He said he would be at the airport + He said he would be at the airport + He said he would be at the airport
- namaria 2y agoFair enough, but the interesting tidbit is that in Turkish you can add a verb ending that implies reportedness and that's interesting in itself and not present in English.
- brudgers 2y agoVerb tense is distinct from conjugation (and semantics are a whole different matter altogether). Careful consideration doesnt make trending tweets.
- sedatk 2y agoAlso, it's not optional. Unless you use "gossip tense" or explicitly state that it's hearsay, it must be factual. There's no ambiguity unlike English.
- exac 2y agoNo, you are misunderstanding if you think that is a "gossip tense".
- andavargas 2y agoEnglish has subtle forms of grammaticalized evidentiality, but not in verb conjugations. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/english-language-and-linguistics/article/abs/grammaticalization-of-evidentiality-in-english/544971EBB596C475A8BF0F37CDB5CCC4# https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/english-language-and...