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I've had FSD (as branded by Tesla) for probably five years; it's gone from "actively trying to kill you constantly" to "very, very, good" to "probably safer tha

I've had FSD (as branded by Tesla) for probably five years; it's gone from "actively trying to kill you constantly" to "very, very, good" to "probably safer than my teenager (who is a good driver)". I banned my current youngest driver from using the old version, but encourage use of the latest version for night driving -- it's really excellent. In most circumstances, it's probably a better driver than me. That said, my kid told me last night in the rain with some cars slowing, it tried to pull left into oncoming traffic, and needed a quick recovery. We seem to be at stuff like that every thousand or so miles, down from every mile five years ago. it is WAY WAY WAY ahead of any other car I've driven or ridden in that can be bought. I understand Waymo in SF is significantly better. But, compared to Rivian, Ford, Volvo, Mercedes, it's years ahead.

FireBeyond 2y ago
> and needed a quick recovery. We seem to be at stuff like that every thousand or so miles, down from every mile five years ago. it is WAY WAY WAY ahead of any other car I've driven or ridden in that can be bought. That's orders of magnitudes better than other FSD users. Independent testing of over 1,000 miles through Southern California required 77 interventions, at an average of once every 13 miles. I suspect your "one intervention every one thousand miles" might be a little optimistic.
- vessenes 2y ago
  Maybe. But on what version of FSD? Recent ones are radically better than older ones. And of course roads and situations vary.
  - FireBeyond 2y ago
    12.5.3, so :( https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/tesla-full-self-driving-requires-human-intervention-every-13-miles/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/tesla-full-self-driving...
    - vessenes 2y ago
      I just took it on the way home, (1 mile), and I disengaged it. But I'm not sure if I needed to; I was in a roundabout and somebody tried to wedge in from another direction; the car braked, but I decided it was safer to accelerate through. So, now I'm down to at least 1 in 500 :p

FireBeyond 2y ago

> and needed a quick recovery. We seem to be at stuff like that every thousand or so miles, down from every mile five years ago. it is WAY WAY WAY ahead of any other car I've driven or ridden in that can be bought. That's orders of magnitudes better than other FSD users. Independent testing of over 1,000 miles through Southern California required 77 interventions, at an average of once every 13 miles. I suspect your "one intervention every one thousand miles" might be a little optimistic.

vessenes 2y ago
Maybe. But on what version of FSD? Recent ones are radically better than older ones. And of course roads and situations vary.
- FireBeyond 2y ago
  12.5.3, so :( https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/tesla-full-self-driving-requires-human-intervention-every-13-miles/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/tesla-full-self-driving...
  - vessenes 2y ago
    I just took it on the way home, (1 mile), and I disengaged it. But I'm not sure if I needed to; I was in a roundabout and somebody tried to wedge in from another direction; the car braked, but I decided it was safer to accelerate through. So, now I'm down to at least 1 in 500 :p