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Just pay the extra money and get off US-East people.

by Aloisius 14y ago

danryan 14y ago
us-west-2 is the same price as us-east-1. Price is no excuse anymore.
- rdl 14y ago
  Latency to Europe kind of is, if you want to be in a single site with acceptable ping times to Europe, US East, and US West. But I'd rather just solve replication and be in each.
  - lucian1900 14y ago
    If latency to Europe is an issue, why not just have a few machines in their Ireland datacenter?
    - rdl 14y ago
      Because distributing sites across multiple regions is hard -- high latency between your front end and database sucks, and replicating a database over high latency is also hard. If you can do it, great, but if you can't, then pick the best single region. US East or US West plus Direct Connect to your own colo space, with AWS for the burst capacity, and your own redundancy for the database servers, might be the best plan if you can't do wide area "over the Internet" database replication. (I might get an extra 10G DC (since I need 1G DC myself) and then have some colo for sale with it in US East/US West later this year.)
maybird 14y ago
Acts of God can happen anywhere.
- nakkiel 14y ago
  You certainly mean bad weather, don't you?
  - cdcarter 14y ago
    Yes, that's what Act of God means in the US legal system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God
    - rplnt 14y ago
      God. Legal term. Funny things.
    - nakkiel 14y ago
      My appologies. I still believe it's wrong to call it that way because it assumes too many things. Another way to word it is Force Majeure. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure
      - latch 14y ago
        No, it isn't another way to word it. Force majeure includes acts of nature _and_ acts of man. Acts of God is only acts of nature. It's somewhat important to the original spirit of the comment since Acts of God might indeed happen anywhere (1) whereas acts of man might not. For example, disruption caused by on going war in Syria wouldn't be covered by an Act of God clause. (1) I think that's BS though...there are definitely some places where nature is considerably more stable than others.
- joelhaasnoot 14y ago
  % of overhead power lines in the US are much greater than say in Amsterdam...
rmc 14y ago
EU-West had similar levels of outage last year due to a lightening strike. Twas out for several hours and took a few days for everything to be back to normal.

Just pay the extra money and get off US-East people.

danryan 14y ago

us-west-2 is the same price as us-east-1. Price is no excuse anymore.

rdl 14y ago
Latency to Europe kind of is, if you want to be in a single site with acceptable ping times to Europe, US East, and US West. But I'd rather just solve replication and be in each.
- lucian1900 14y ago
  If latency to Europe is an issue, why not just have a few machines in their Ireland datacenter?
  - rdl 14y ago
    Because distributing sites across multiple regions is hard -- high latency between your front end and database sucks, and replicating a database over high latency is also hard. If you can do it, great, but if you can't, then pick the best single region. US East or US West plus Direct Connect to your own colo space, with AWS for the burst capacity, and your own redundancy for the database servers, might be the best plan if you can't do wide area "over the Internet" database replication. (I might get an extra 10G DC (since I need 1G DC myself) and then have some colo for sale with it in US East/US West later this year.)

maybird 14y ago

Acts of God can happen anywhere.

nakkiel 14y ago
You certainly mean bad weather, don't you?
- cdcarter 14y ago
  Yes, that's what Act of God means in the US legal system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God
  - rplnt 14y ago
    God. Legal term. Funny things.
  - nakkiel 14y ago
    My appologies. I still believe it's wrong to call it that way because it assumes too many things. Another way to word it is Force Majeure. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure
    - latch 14y ago
      No, it isn't another way to word it. Force majeure includes acts of nature _and_ acts of man. Acts of God is only acts of nature. It's somewhat important to the original spirit of the comment since Acts of God might indeed happen anywhere (1) whereas acts of man might not. For example, disruption caused by on going war in Syria wouldn't be covered by an Act of God clause. (1) I think that's BS though...there are definitely some places where nature is considerably more stable than others.
joelhaasnoot 14y ago
% of overhead power lines in the US are much greater than say in Amsterdam...

rmc 14y ago

EU-West had similar levels of outage last year due to a lightening strike. Twas out for several hours and took a few days for everything to be back to normal.