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The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely

The big promise of the Robotaxi was that every Tesla would be one, that your Tesla would earn you money while you weren't using it. This was obviously unlikely to ever happen, but has been the promise right up to this event, and something Musk has been very vocal about. Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be the operator reaping the benefits. That's a significant under-delivery, especially for the average Tesla retail investor who believes in the mission and is driving their stock price.

mgiannopoulos 2y ago
Uber drivers already drive Teslas with FSD. Today.
- tsimionescu 2y ago
  The promise was that you'd buy a Model 3 to use as your personal car, and then run it as a robotaxi while you're at work, and the taxi money would pay you back for the car within a year. FSD is nowhere near up to that task, neither technically nor legally. And the new info from this presentation is that it is, of course, never going to be: this was an indirect admission that the Model 3 was sold with fraudulent advertising by the then-CEO himself.
  - iknowstuff 2y ago
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  - mgiannopoulos 2y ago
    On the event they announced they will start Unsupervised FSD in California and Texas with Models 3 and Y in 2025
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  Thanks for the laugh, wonderful passive income and price point
- ClassyJacket 2y ago
  Show me proof they are doing it without being in the cars.
porphyra 2y ago
> one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be the operator reaping the benefits Elon said you will be able to buy a Cybercab for under $30,000 and individual owners will be able to "tend to [your robotaxi fleet] like a flock of sheep".
- hinkley 2y ago
  I don’t know if you’ve noticed but the quality of stuff coming out of that man’s mouth has stopped being quality and is now just quantity.
- tbruckner 2y ago
  And Elon is a guy that knows how to tend to flocks of sheep(le)
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- albertopv 2y ago
  If you are still believing a word from that man you're delusional
- diffeomorphism 2y ago
  So it is 100% true that the promise for your current Tesla was broken. But don't worry, an additional $30k will fix it. Yeah, not sure how this is supposed to be a positive reply.
  - SmartJerry 2y ago
    He also said at the event that all Teslas would have the same robotaxi features.
huijzer 2y ago
> Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone That’s untrue. He said Model 3s and Ys will be starting taxiing next year in California and Texas.
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- lannisterstark 2y ago
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  - bagels 2y ago
    He also said the Roadster would fly with SpaceX thrusters. I think that was peak Musk.
    - wlesieutre 2y ago
      Well there was the one on the falcon heavy test flight
    - bufferoverflow 2y ago
      "SpaceX package", not "SpaceX thrusters". He was talking about compressed air thrusters to increase acceleration. It's a cool idea. Who knows, they might implement it.
      - bagels 2y ago
        No, he said it would fly, he really did. Edit: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1005577738332172289 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1005577738332172289 SpaceX option package for new Tesla Roadster will include ~10 small rocket thrusters arranged seamlessly around car. These rocket engines dramatically improve acceleration, top speed, braking & cornering. Maybe they will even allow a Tesla to fly … "Not saying the next gen Roadster special upgrade package will definitely enable it to fly short hops, but maybe …" I didn't want to spend the time to find the video where the flying bit was said more explicitly.
itemize 2y ago
Tesla running the service would good for the investor though
modeless 2y ago
I don't know what presentation you were watching, but in this one it was clearly stated that all Tesla models will be autonomous, not just the Cybercab, and also that you will be able to buy and own the Cybercab just like their other cars and it will earn money for you. It's fine if you don't believe it, but that's what was said.

mgiannopoulos 2y ago

Uber drivers already drive Teslas with FSD. Today.

tsimionescu 2y ago
The promise was that you'd buy a Model 3 to use as your personal car, and then run it as a robotaxi while you're at work, and the taxi money would pay you back for the car within a year. FSD is nowhere near up to that task, neither technically nor legally. And the new info from this presentation is that it is, of course, never going to be: this was an indirect admission that the Model 3 was sold with fraudulent advertising by the then-CEO himself.
- iknowstuff 2y ago
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- mgiannopoulos 2y ago
  On the event they announced they will start Unsupervised FSD in California and Texas with Models 3 and Y in 2025
bravetraveler 2y ago
Thanks for the laugh, wonderful passive income and price point
ClassyJacket 2y ago
Show me proof they are doing it without being in the cars.

porphyra 2y ago

> one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone, and Tesla will be the operator reaping the benefits Elon said you will be able to buy a Cybercab for under $30,000 and individual owners will be able to "tend to [your robotaxi fleet] like a flock of sheep".

hinkley 2y ago
I don’t know if you’ve noticed but the quality of stuff coming out of that man’s mouth has stopped being quality and is now just quantity.
tbruckner 2y ago
And Elon is a guy that knows how to tend to flocks of sheep(le)
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albertopv 2y ago
If you are still believing a word from that man you're delusional
diffeomorphism 2y ago
So it is 100% true that the promise for your current Tesla was broken. But don't worry, an additional $30k will fix it. Yeah, not sure how this is supposed to be a positive reply.
- SmartJerry 2y ago
  He also said at the event that all Teslas would have the same robotaxi features.

huijzer 2y ago

> Despite having very few details in this presentation, the one detail that is clear is that existing Teslas won't be taxiing anyone That’s untrue. He said Model 3s and Ys will be starting taxiing next year in California and Texas.

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lannisterstark 2y ago
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- bagels 2y ago
  He also said the Roadster would fly with SpaceX thrusters. I think that was peak Musk.
  - wlesieutre 2y ago
    Well there was the one on the falcon heavy test flight
  - bufferoverflow 2y ago
    "SpaceX package", not "SpaceX thrusters". He was talking about compressed air thrusters to increase acceleration. It's a cool idea. Who knows, they might implement it.
    - bagels 2y ago
      No, he said it would fly, he really did. Edit: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1005577738332172289 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1005577738332172289 SpaceX option package for new Tesla Roadster will include ~10 small rocket thrusters arranged seamlessly around car. These rocket engines dramatically improve acceleration, top speed, braking & cornering. Maybe they will even allow a Tesla to fly … "Not saying the next gen Roadster special upgrade package will definitely enable it to fly short hops, but maybe …" I didn't want to spend the time to find the video where the flying bit was said more explicitly.

itemize 2y ago

Tesla running the service would good for the investor though

modeless 2y ago

I don't know what presentation you were watching, but in this one it was clearly stated that all Tesla models will be autonomous, not just the Cybercab, and also that you will be able to buy and own the Cybercab just like their other cars and it will earn money for you. It's fine if you don't believe it, but that's what was said.