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What does being EV have anything to do with bricking it? Why was it bricked in first place? Cars don't brick themselves by entering tunnel or driving in wilder

What does being EV have anything to do with bricking it? Why was it bricked in first place? Cars don't brick themselves by entering tunnel or driving in wilderness. I get it, he has to keep stirring up controversy to stay relevant, but Cory sometimes looses his marbles over irrelevant crap.

mikestew 2y ago
I’m not even convinced that the cars won’t work without working servers. All of the links in TFA are behind a paywall I’m not going to bother working around, but is there any evidence that Fiskers need a home to phone in order to keep working? Or is it that one can’t remotely start the vehicle (as one example) without working servers? ‘Cuz $DEITY knows that “bricked” has a very wide range of colloquial definitions.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Wonder if we should have a dedicated agency that for keeping control server up. Allowing manufacturers to open/close your vehicles at whim sounds putting too many eggs at same basket. DMV is the one who knows who actually owns the car after all...
  - dns_snek 2y ago
    I expect government(s) to step in at some point and ban the practice entirely because it's such a foolish cybersecurity risk to have unnecessary single points of failure. It's basically a big red button that reads "cripple our economy, please" that our adversaries can hit at any time.
- mrgoldenbrown 2y ago
  https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/08/fisker-bankruptcy-hits-major-speed-bump-as-fleet-sale-is-now-in-question/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/08/fisker-bankruptcy-hits-maj... Not all the links are behind paywalls. Fisker themselves are among the groups saying they don't know how to get the cars running again.
  - hulitu 2y ago
    > Fisker themselves are among the groups saying they don't know how to get the cars running again. Eh ? Like any gambling game: Insert Coin
squidgedcricket 2y ago
EV is relevant because all of the bricked Fisker cars are EVs. Nothing stopping something similar from happening to modern ICE vehicles. TFA doesn't say that all Fisker cars are bricked - It says that they become unusable do to minor maintenance issues that can't resolved without Fisker servers being online. I wish I could buy an electric car with no radio transmitters and no ways to install software other than JTAG ports. I think that'll be possible in the relatively near future through EV conversions of legacy vehicles, though that route may have crash safety concerns.
- survirtual 2y ago
  I want a rugged EV so bad. No smart features, no phoning home, total control to the user, and designed to be beat up. I think an EV could be an absolute workhorse if built correctly. If I ever get the funds I'm building this vehicle for sure, because it is pretty much guaranteed no one else will.
  - idratherbike 2y ago
    I am thinking of building one too. Having enough funds and know how of all the regulations is a big road block though. I want to go a step further and have an analog electric car, tired of the digital computer crap.

mikestew 2y ago

I’m not even convinced that the cars won’t work without working servers. All of the links in TFA are behind a paywall I’m not going to bother working around, but is there any evidence that Fiskers need a home to phone in order to keep working? Or is it that one can’t remotely start the vehicle (as one example) without working servers? ‘Cuz $DEITY knows that “bricked” has a very wide range of colloquial definitions.

dzhiurgis 2y ago
Wonder if we should have a dedicated agency that for keeping control server up. Allowing manufacturers to open/close your vehicles at whim sounds putting too many eggs at same basket. DMV is the one who knows who actually owns the car after all...
- dns_snek 2y ago
  I expect government(s) to step in at some point and ban the practice entirely because it's such a foolish cybersecurity risk to have unnecessary single points of failure. It's basically a big red button that reads "cripple our economy, please" that our adversaries can hit at any time.
mrgoldenbrown 2y ago
https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/08/fisker-bankruptcy-hits-major-speed-bump-as-fleet-sale-is-now-in-question/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/08/fisker-bankruptcy-hits-maj... Not all the links are behind paywalls. Fisker themselves are among the groups saying they don't know how to get the cars running again.
- hulitu 2y ago
  > Fisker themselves are among the groups saying they don't know how to get the cars running again. Eh ? Like any gambling game: Insert Coin

squidgedcricket 2y ago

EV is relevant because all of the bricked Fisker cars are EVs. Nothing stopping something similar from happening to modern ICE vehicles. TFA doesn't say that all Fisker cars are bricked - It says that they become unusable do to minor maintenance issues that can't resolved without Fisker servers being online. I wish I could buy an electric car with no radio transmitters and no ways to install software other than JTAG ports. I think that'll be possible in the relatively near future through EV conversions of legacy vehicles, though that route may have crash safety concerns.

survirtual 2y ago
I want a rugged EV so bad. No smart features, no phoning home, total control to the user, and designed to be beat up. I think an EV could be an absolute workhorse if built correctly. If I ever get the funds I'm building this vehicle for sure, because it is pretty much guaranteed no one else will.
- idratherbike 2y ago
  I am thinking of building one too. Having enough funds and know how of all the regulations is a big road block though. I want to go a step further and have an analog electric car, tired of the digital computer crap.