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There isn't any real coming back from this other than waiting a decade for people to just forget about it. They went out of their way to do something that was h

There isn't any real coming back from this other than waiting a decade for people to just forget about it. They went out of their way to do something that was highly unpopular, retroactively binding, with nebulous enforcement rules that unity decided. This was a massive unforced blunder.

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
It certainly gave Godot a huge boost in mindshare. If you are starting a greenfield project today and you are Godot compatible, are you really going to risk capacious Unity altering the deal again?
pnw 2y ago
They fired the CEO who made that decision. That seems like a pretty solid signal?
- tapoxi 2y ago
  They have made the right moves after this, but it was their second massive breach of trust after the Improbable debacle. The people invested in the Unity ecosystem will stay, but Unity drove a lot of people to Godot and Unreal. Unity now occupies a weird space where it's more expensive and harder to use than Godot, but not as powerful as Unreal. As someone who has taught middle schoolers game development, Godot will absolutely replace Unity for students not only due to its price and licensing, but the ease of getting it deployed on a fleet of machines without even requiring a separate IDE.
  - gamblor956 2y ago
    Godot is only cheaper if you plan to make purely for the PC. If you have any aspirations of a console release, Godot is significantly more expensive.
    - tapoxi 2y ago
      The Switch support is free and community developed. For Xbox/PlayStation W4 has a plugin module for about $800/year, that's less than half the cost of a single Unity Pro seat.
  - pnw 2y ago
    IMHO the Improbable 'debacle' was solely due to the Improbable CEO coming up with new use cases outside the scope and spirit of the Unity license. I'm no fan of Improbable (and history has proven my opinion accurate) and they were clearly abusing Unity's license which wasn't intended to be free for companies allegedly valued in the billions of dollars. Unity gave them more than a year and they refused to pay for a license. Has Improbable completely abandoned the game market now? Their website reads like a crypto venture fund and their CTO and CCO left last year.
- the_gorilla 2y ago
  It's more the breach of trust and how systemically rotten the entire company must have been to make a decision like that. I don't really buy that one guy could be the cause, and it also appears to be the CEO's job to hit the eject button when the company needs a scapegoat. The board of directors decided that the president of EA should run unity, and I think they're all still around.

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago

It certainly gave Godot a huge boost in mindshare. If you are starting a greenfield project today and you are Godot compatible, are you really going to risk capacious Unity altering the deal again?

pnw 2y ago

They fired the CEO who made that decision. That seems like a pretty solid signal?

tapoxi 2y ago
They have made the right moves after this, but it was their second massive breach of trust after the Improbable debacle. The people invested in the Unity ecosystem will stay, but Unity drove a lot of people to Godot and Unreal. Unity now occupies a weird space where it's more expensive and harder to use than Godot, but not as powerful as Unreal. As someone who has taught middle schoolers game development, Godot will absolutely replace Unity for students not only due to its price and licensing, but the ease of getting it deployed on a fleet of machines without even requiring a separate IDE.
- gamblor956 2y ago
  Godot is only cheaper if you plan to make purely for the PC. If you have any aspirations of a console release, Godot is significantly more expensive.
  - tapoxi 2y ago
    The Switch support is free and community developed. For Xbox/PlayStation W4 has a plugin module for about $800/year, that's less than half the cost of a single Unity Pro seat.
- pnw 2y ago
  IMHO the Improbable 'debacle' was solely due to the Improbable CEO coming up with new use cases outside the scope and spirit of the Unity license. I'm no fan of Improbable (and history has proven my opinion accurate) and they were clearly abusing Unity's license which wasn't intended to be free for companies allegedly valued in the billions of dollars. Unity gave them more than a year and they refused to pay for a license. Has Improbable completely abandoned the game market now? Their website reads like a crypto venture fund and their CTO and CCO left last year.
the_gorilla 2y ago
It's more the breach of trust and how systemically rotten the entire company must have been to make a decision like that. I don't really buy that one guy could be the cause, and it also appears to be the CEO's job to hit the eject button when the company needs a scapegoat. The board of directors decided that the president of EA should run unity, and I think they're all still around.