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> For example, there are no drivers for a pretty common steering wheel (Logitech G923). This is a nice, specific detail. Most of these comments are very vague.

> For example, there are no drivers for a pretty common steering wheel (Logitech G923). This is a nice, specific detail. Most of these comments are very vague. > There is a driver for an older version of the wheel that kind of works Do you mean an out of tree driver? Would you test this and post back? The 6.3 kernel they mentioned 3 months ago is very old and likely a forked kernel. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/vb0b37/g29g923_users_correct_guide_to_install_logitech/l9dimye/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/vb0b37/g29g92... I am new to steering wheels-not sure if this is the exact version because they mention xbox)? Try a distro with a very recent kernel (6.11; like Nobara for a gaming focused distro). > I also noticed that games from Steam end up taking up substantially more disk space to the point where I can have only a few games installed on Linux. Shouldn't be substantially more disk space. Would you provide stats? Proton makes a Windows environment for each game as it installs those 3rd party libraries in the environment and that is used for disk calculations, while on Windows those libraries may be installed directly to the OS. Each 3rd party library and the shader cache is stored separately. This is my guess-I do not work on Proton. > And even the games without any special hardware dongles don't work so well as you imply. Anticheat and a few obscure Windows libraries are an issue. River City Girls needs some media foundation library or it does not show cutscenes. Valve is working on them.

School-Cotton 2y ago
Anticheat is not some minor detail, lots of popular competitive games require it.
- Zhyl 2y ago
  Specifically, these ones: https://areweanticheatyet.com https://areweanticheatyet.com
- Marsymars 2y ago
  I wish anticheat/multiplayer was universally an option on install. I don't play multiplayer games online, and often I'd like to be able to cheat in single-player, because I'm time-constrained and would like to cut out some part of the game I find less fun. Anticheat only makes my experience worse.
ranger_danger 2y ago
I think the point OP was trying to make is that there's still a large amount of programs and devices that don't work on wine. Probably for at least as many people that "everything just works" for, the opposite is true in my experience.
somat 2y ago
A question about the shader cache. what is it? My steam system is somewhat questionable. it is netbooted, everything is nfs. This... well, it sort of sucks, I would not recommend it. But I love having the "one good drive" my NAS and then using that for everything, I am patient So I am sticking with it. But the "rebuilding shader cache". what is it doing? why does it take so long? why does it do it every time a launch a game? why am I offered a choice to skip it? why do I not notice any difference if I skip it? I have a 10G connection to my nas but things are still much slower than I think they should be. I think it is related to poor interaction between nfs and a lot of small files. Otherwise, linux and proton are working great for games. When running games on windows I used iscsi for my games, and that worked well, I should probably do that on linux but I like having a filesystem on the far side instead of an opaque block device so I thought I would try nfs. There are some weird artifacts in the system, I have to start steam twice, The first time it fails to connect to the webhelper, once everything is cached, it starts faster and thus works the second time, the shader cache takes forever and a day to rebuild, I can manually empty it which helps the next rebuild, I suspect many small files, having to check and replace them one by one, but I don't know, nfs tuning is somewhat of a dark art. Steam does not get along with my favorite tiling window manger(spectrwm) so I thought I would try that other openbsd floating window manager(CWM), steam is happier, but still has a few artifacts with menus, I suspect the CWM zero sized borders are the cause. Overall, The experience is much worse than on windows, but that is because I made it that way, and so I am much happier than when I am on windows.
- justinclift 2y ago
  > But the "rebuilding shader cache". what is it doing? why does it take so long? why does it do it every time a launch a game? Does that happen for every game, or just specific ones? Asking because this is a behaviour I saw for a short time (week or two?) a few years ago, but these days it'll just do the "rebuilding shader cache" thing once for a game. Mostly after upgrading the Nvidia driver to a new release. > I have a 10G connection to my nas but things are still much slower than I think they should be. I think it is related to poor interaction between nfs and a lot of small files. That sounds more like your NAS is using hard drives (slow, especially in an array) rather than ssd's. Is that the case? > There are some weird artifacts in the system, I have to start steam twice, The first time it fails to connect to the webhelper, once everything is cached, it starts faster and thus works the second time ... Yeah, that really does sound like your storage isn't set up optimally, so is timing out as Steam loads into cache on your NAS. :( Out of curiosity, what kind of NAS is it? :)

School-Cotton 2y ago

Anticheat is not some minor detail, lots of popular competitive games require it.

Zhyl 2y ago
Specifically, these ones: https://areweanticheatyet.com https://areweanticheatyet.com
Marsymars 2y ago
I wish anticheat/multiplayer was universally an option on install. I don't play multiplayer games online, and often I'd like to be able to cheat in single-player, because I'm time-constrained and would like to cut out some part of the game I find less fun. Anticheat only makes my experience worse.

ranger_danger 2y ago

I think the point OP was trying to make is that there's still a large amount of programs and devices that don't work on wine. Probably for at least as many people that "everything just works" for, the opposite is true in my experience.

somat 2y ago

A question about the shader cache. what is it? My steam system is somewhat questionable. it is netbooted, everything is nfs. This... well, it sort of sucks, I would not recommend it. But I love having the "one good drive" my NAS and then using that for everything, I am patient So I am sticking with it. But the "rebuilding shader cache". what is it doing? why does it take so long? why does it do it every time a launch a game? why am I offered a choice to skip it? why do I not notice any difference if I skip it? I have a 10G connection to my nas but things are still much slower than I think they should be. I think it is related to poor interaction between nfs and a lot of small files. Otherwise, linux and proton are working great for games. When running games on windows I used iscsi for my games, and that worked well, I should probably do that on linux but I like having a filesystem on the far side instead of an opaque block device so I thought I would try nfs. There are some weird artifacts in the system, I have to start steam twice, The first time it fails to connect to the webhelper, once everything is cached, it starts faster and thus works the second time, the shader cache takes forever and a day to rebuild, I can manually empty it which helps the next rebuild, I suspect many small files, having to check and replace them one by one, but I don't know, nfs tuning is somewhat of a dark art. Steam does not get along with my favorite tiling window manger(spectrwm) so I thought I would try that other openbsd floating window manager(CWM), steam is happier, but still has a few artifacts with menus, I suspect the CWM zero sized borders are the cause. Overall, The experience is much worse than on windows, but that is because I made it that way, and so I am much happier than when I am on windows.

justinclift 2y ago
> But the "rebuilding shader cache". what is it doing? why does it take so long? why does it do it every time a launch a game? Does that happen for every game, or just specific ones? Asking because this is a behaviour I saw for a short time (week or two?) a few years ago, but these days it'll just do the "rebuilding shader cache" thing once for a game. Mostly after upgrading the Nvidia driver to a new release. > I have a 10G connection to my nas but things are still much slower than I think they should be. I think it is related to poor interaction between nfs and a lot of small files. That sounds more like your NAS is using hard drives (slow, especially in an array) rather than ssd's. Is that the case? > There are some weird artifacts in the system, I have to start steam twice, The first time it fails to connect to the webhelper, once everything is cached, it starts faster and thus works the second time ... Yeah, that really does sound like your storage isn't set up optimally, so is timing out as Steam loads into cache on your NAS. :( Out of curiosity, what kind of NAS is it? :)