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Even all that won't fix: - assholes looking at their smartphone during the movie - assholes who won't shut the fuck up Gave up the whole movie theater experi

by slig 2y ago

Even all that won't fix: - assholes looking at their smartphone during the movie - assholes who won't shut the fuck up Gave up the whole movie theater experience. My fancy reclining sofa and huge 4K OLED TV are way better already.

etrautmann 2y ago
sure, those are completely separate issues from what's being discussed.
- cjbgkagh 2y ago
  I think the point is that instead of asking cinemas to self regulate one could simply watch to movie at home. I see it as part of a general trend where public spaces are tarnished by a general public that is unable to behave itself. I think in time the process will accelerate and more and more public spaces will be replaced by private spaces. This is fine for people like myself who can afford such private spaces but I think it’s bad for society which I still have to live in.
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    Unfortunately, society in general, not just cinemas, has decided not to hold assholes accountable to their assholic behavior, so behavior is only going to get worse. It's something voters (and consumers by voting with wallet) have the collective power to change, but we refuse to.
    - cjbgkagh 2y ago
      There is a general loss of civility, in my view nothing can be done about it and those who try will be simply throwing themselves against the gears of the machine to no avail. If I was responsible for maintaining behavior in a public space, say as a restaurateur, the law would not be on my side. If I tell a minority woman that she needs to behave is that a hate crime or criminal misogyny? I'm sure my life would be destroyed while we found out. The state has in effect taken over the role of policing behavior and has done an incredibly bad job of it. This isn't a figment of my imagination - I was pulled into a tribunal because I expressed amusement at something my female colleague said, I thought it was funny and I thought we were friends, she made a misogyny complaint to hr. Trying to explain why I thought it was funny didn't help nor did the explanation that I would have acted the same if a man had said what she did. I've since avoided working at large companies which has been an impingement on my career but at least I don't have to be stressed each day about some possible perceived microaggression. Perhaps an intentional community which can use ostracism as a punishment to police behavior could be effective.
      - catlikesshrimp 2y ago
        Care to share what the joke was? I hope it wasn't dark humor.
        cjbgkagh 2y ago
        It wasn't a joke, she asked for help in the form of how do I do X without using Y. I just went 'ha - yeah everyone has trouble with Y when they first see it. It's a bit tricky, let me show you how it's done using Y and then how it's done without using Y'. I correctly assumed she was avoiding the use of Y due to her unfamiliarity with it. She was a band new intern and I had many years of experience. She had been regularly coming to me for help which I had been doing after hours on my own time. She did not understand the seriousness of the hr thing and expected me to continue mentoring her like nothing had happened.
    - slig 2y ago
      Oh, I think there are a lot of us voting with their wallets already and that's one of the reasons the assholic behavior is getting worse: those that care have given up and don't show up anymore.
  - autoexec 2y ago
    > I see it as part of a general trend where public spaces are tarnished by a general public that is unable to behave itself. It's easy to blame the people, when it comes to the folks who can't stop pulling out their cell phones many of them have been conditioned to act that way from a very young age. If we keep letting companies turn people into anxious iphone addicts it'll only get worse. They can't stay off their phones while driving, asking them to go for an hour and half without looking at their phone violates everything their phone has taught them about how to behave
    - ryandrake 2y ago
      We need to stop excusing bad behavior (by people with agency and control over their bodies) with "well, corporations made them do it!" Cell phone companies are not turning people into inconsiderate jerks--they already are inconsiderate jerks, and their phone just provides them another way to be jerky to everyone.
      - autoexec 2y ago
        > they already are inconsiderate jerks I've seen good people do it, and be embarrassed by it after I told them to put it away. It just doesn't make much sense that we've allowed behavioral conditioning to be carried out on the population multiple times a day, every single day, since before they could even read, if we're then going to be mad when some percentage of those people go on to act in exactly the way they've been trained to. Not everyone has been conditioned to that extent, or will be as susceptible, or at least not as susceptible to it all the time, but this should be the expected outcome. It'd actually be very weird and unexpected if no one ever pulled out their phones in theaters.
    - cjbgkagh 2y ago
      If you're suggesting that accidently additive products and services be banned from use for the public good then I'm in 100% agreement. What I'm not sure of is how that could possibly be reliably achieved. I guess 'sin' taxes would a blend of freedom and prohibition but then you get a government that depends on the sin for it's revenue which sets up a rather perverse incentive. Like an alcohol tax in Russia, or indulgences for the Catholic church. TikTok is slowly destroying my sisters life and there is nothing anyone can do about it since she does not think it's a problem and she is an adult.
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  - slig 2y ago
    Exactly, thank you for explaining way better than I did.
Feathercrown 2y ago
That's when you call the staff over
- slig 2y ago
  In the past, maybe, now I don't care about causing a scene when all I want is watch a movie.
HeyLaughingBoy 2y ago
I go during the day on the rare occasions that we go. My kid randomly decided that he wanted to see Deadpool & Wolverine while we were out doing errands, so we went to the theater on what turned out to be the opening day. No way were there even 10 more people in the theater at 1PM on a Friday. At least around here, the cinemas are never crowded during the daytime.
- slig 2y ago
  Now that's a good experience, I'm sure your kid had a great time!
  - HeyLaughingBoy 2y ago
    He had a blast. I dozed off a few times :-)
TeMPOraL 2y ago
> - assholes looking at their smartphone during the movie Solved by arranging seats so that the backs of the seat in front of you blocks off from seeing anything below the next rows' head level, and so your head is looking at the screen in resting position anyway. > - assholes who won't shut the fuck up Solved by turning up the volume. Big cinemas with large viewing halls have a big advantage over studio cinemas here.

by slig 2y ago

etrautmann 2y ago

sure, those are completely separate issues from what's being discussed.

cjbgkagh 2y ago
I think the point is that instead of asking cinemas to self regulate one could simply watch to movie at home. I see it as part of a general trend where public spaces are tarnished by a general public that is unable to behave itself. I think in time the process will accelerate and more and more public spaces will be replaced by private spaces. This is fine for people like myself who can afford such private spaces but I think it’s bad for society which I still have to live in.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  Unfortunately, society in general, not just cinemas, has decided not to hold assholes accountable to their assholic behavior, so behavior is only going to get worse. It's something voters (and consumers by voting with wallet) have the collective power to change, but we refuse to.
  - cjbgkagh 2y ago
    There is a general loss of civility, in my view nothing can be done about it and those who try will be simply throwing themselves against the gears of the machine to no avail. If I was responsible for maintaining behavior in a public space, say as a restaurateur, the law would not be on my side. If I tell a minority woman that she needs to behave is that a hate crime or criminal misogyny? I'm sure my life would be destroyed while we found out. The state has in effect taken over the role of policing behavior and has done an incredibly bad job of it. This isn't a figment of my imagination - I was pulled into a tribunal because I expressed amusement at something my female colleague said, I thought it was funny and I thought we were friends, she made a misogyny complaint to hr. Trying to explain why I thought it was funny didn't help nor did the explanation that I would have acted the same if a man had said what she did. I've since avoided working at large companies which has been an impingement on my career but at least I don't have to be stressed each day about some possible perceived microaggression. Perhaps an intentional community which can use ostracism as a punishment to police behavior could be effective.
    - catlikesshrimp 2y ago
      Care to share what the joke was? I hope it wasn't dark humor.
      - cjbgkagh 2y ago
        It wasn't a joke, she asked for help in the form of how do I do X without using Y. I just went 'ha - yeah everyone has trouble with Y when they first see it. It's a bit tricky, let me show you how it's done using Y and then how it's done without using Y'. I correctly assumed she was avoiding the use of Y due to her unfamiliarity with it. She was a band new intern and I had many years of experience. She had been regularly coming to me for help which I had been doing after hours on my own time. She did not understand the seriousness of the hr thing and expected me to continue mentoring her like nothing had happened.
  - slig 2y ago
    Oh, I think there are a lot of us voting with their wallets already and that's one of the reasons the assholic behavior is getting worse: those that care have given up and don't show up anymore.
- autoexec 2y ago
  > I see it as part of a general trend where public spaces are tarnished by a general public that is unable to behave itself. It's easy to blame the people, when it comes to the folks who can't stop pulling out their cell phones many of them have been conditioned to act that way from a very young age. If we keep letting companies turn people into anxious iphone addicts it'll only get worse. They can't stay off their phones while driving, asking them to go for an hour and half without looking at their phone violates everything their phone has taught them about how to behave
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    We need to stop excusing bad behavior (by people with agency and control over their bodies) with "well, corporations made them do it!" Cell phone companies are not turning people into inconsiderate jerks--they already are inconsiderate jerks, and their phone just provides them another way to be jerky to everyone.
    - autoexec 2y ago
      > they already are inconsiderate jerks I've seen good people do it, and be embarrassed by it after I told them to put it away. It just doesn't make much sense that we've allowed behavioral conditioning to be carried out on the population multiple times a day, every single day, since before they could even read, if we're then going to be mad when some percentage of those people go on to act in exactly the way they've been trained to. Not everyone has been conditioned to that extent, or will be as susceptible, or at least not as susceptible to it all the time, but this should be the expected outcome. It'd actually be very weird and unexpected if no one ever pulled out their phones in theaters.
  - cjbgkagh 2y ago
    If you're suggesting that accidently additive products and services be banned from use for the public good then I'm in 100% agreement. What I'm not sure of is how that could possibly be reliably achieved. I guess 'sin' taxes would a blend of freedom and prohibition but then you get a government that depends on the sin for it's revenue which sets up a rather perverse incentive. Like an alcohol tax in Russia, or indulgences for the Catholic church. TikTok is slowly destroying my sisters life and there is nothing anyone can do about it since she does not think it's a problem and she is an adult.
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- slig 2y ago
  Exactly, thank you for explaining way better than I did.

Feathercrown 2y ago

That's when you call the staff over

slig 2y ago
In the past, maybe, now I don't care about causing a scene when all I want is watch a movie.

HeyLaughingBoy 2y ago

I go during the day on the rare occasions that we go. My kid randomly decided that he wanted to see Deadpool & Wolverine while we were out doing errands, so we went to the theater on what turned out to be the opening day. No way were there even 10 more people in the theater at 1PM on a Friday. At least around here, the cinemas are never crowded during the daytime.

slig 2y ago
Now that's a good experience, I'm sure your kid had a great time!
- HeyLaughingBoy 2y ago
  He had a blast. I dozed off a few times :-)

TeMPOraL 2y ago

> - assholes looking at their smartphone during the movie Solved by arranging seats so that the backs of the seat in front of you blocks off from seeing anything below the next rows' head level, and so your head is looking at the screen in resting position anyway. > - assholes who won't shut the fuck up Solved by turning up the volume. Big cinemas with large viewing halls have a big advantage over studio cinemas here.