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Wait those movies have plots?

by CPLX 2y ago

wccrawford 2y ago
In care you are really un-aware... Yes. They have plots, and they're very well made.
- philistine 2y ago
  > They have plots, and they're very well made. Were really well made. Kevin Feige just turned 50, and it shows. He lost his edge.
  - djkivi 2y ago
    I’m not sure that being 50 has anything to do with it.
    - jasomill 2y ago
      At least he's self-aware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8BJ8AufQt8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8BJ8AufQt8 (arguable She-Hulk spoiler)
- consteval 2y ago
  The earlier movies like Iron Man were kind of okay plot-wise. Definitely sometimes I didn't fully connect with the character's motivations but it was fine. They've really gone downhill now I feel. Whatever little plot there is feels like it's treated as an afterthought. Things just kind of... happen. It makes the characters lose identity, I think.
- sixothree 2y ago
  I honestly feel like the plot is fighting. They're movies about fighting after all. There are two types of movies - movies about fighting and other movies. I'm going to exaggerate a bit but not much. I have "that friend", I'm sure we all do, who insists there's a reason to watch whichever 5 movie before this one. But it's a movie about fighting. Those 2 minutes of development matters so little to anything that makes the movie what it is. And it was designed for people to be able to follow without having watched anything before it. So sure they have plot. But it's completely inconsequential. Because fighting.
kyleee 2y ago
I watch for the plot, similar to another popular ignominious genre
vundercind 2y ago
A sequence of connected events happening is practically the only major element of telling a story that they consistently have in good measure, so… yes? Theme, characters that aren’t “cool quippy person” or “somewhat alien quippy person”, a message they not just set up but then commit to, use of action for anything other than spectacle, et c. Lots of story-things (to say nothing of film craft—score, scene-setting and shot choices) of other sorts they are weak on. Plot, they have. [edit] and yeah, I’ve seen all of them except a few of the recent ones at least twice regardless. It’s fine to like things that are not, you know, great.

Wait those movies have plots?

by CPLX 2y ago

Wait those movies have plots?

wccrawford 2y ago

In care you are really un-aware... Yes. They have plots, and they're very well made.

philistine 2y ago
> They have plots, and they're very well made. Were really well made. Kevin Feige just turned 50, and it shows. He lost his edge.
- djkivi 2y ago
  I’m not sure that being 50 has anything to do with it.
  - jasomill 2y ago
    At least he's self-aware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8BJ8AufQt8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8BJ8AufQt8 (arguable She-Hulk spoiler)
consteval 2y ago
The earlier movies like Iron Man were kind of okay plot-wise. Definitely sometimes I didn't fully connect with the character's motivations but it was fine. They've really gone downhill now I feel. Whatever little plot there is feels like it's treated as an afterthought. Things just kind of... happen. It makes the characters lose identity, I think.
sixothree 2y ago
I honestly feel like the plot is fighting. They're movies about fighting after all. There are two types of movies - movies about fighting and other movies. I'm going to exaggerate a bit but not much. I have "that friend", I'm sure we all do, who insists there's a reason to watch whichever 5 movie before this one. But it's a movie about fighting. Those 2 minutes of development matters so little to anything that makes the movie what it is. And it was designed for people to be able to follow without having watched anything before it. So sure they have plot. But it's completely inconsequential. Because fighting.

kyleee 2y ago

I watch for the plot, similar to another popular ignominious genre

vundercind 2y ago

A sequence of connected events happening is practically the only major element of telling a story that they consistently have in good measure, so… yes? Theme, characters that aren’t “cool quippy person” or “somewhat alien quippy person”, a message they not just set up but then commit to, use of action for anything other than spectacle, et c. Lots of story-things (to say nothing of film craft—score, scene-setting and shot choices) of other sorts they are weak on. Plot, they have. [edit] and yeah, I’ve seen all of them except a few of the recent ones at least twice regardless. It’s fine to like things that are not, you know, great.