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A expected step. Nobody has a intention, to build a anti-(age)-statistic protection wall. Young, educated people are the gold of the western world- and the gol

A expected step. Nobody has a intention, to build a anti-(age)-statistic protection wall. Young, educated people are the gold of the western world- and the gold must not always flow towards rome as tax.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Young, educated people are the gold of the western world No, they (we?) are not. The better analogy is a gold mine. You still need to invest in it to get anything out, and it’ll be a few years before you do. If you fail to do that, all you have is a Superfund site.
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  Different analogies, but both are true. Young, educated, [and motivated] workers are a desired and contested resource. Producing them is also important.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > Young, educated, [and motivated] workers are a desired and contested resource Theoretically, sure. In reality this isn’t reflected in the immigration policy of any large economy. Portugal makes news with this for a reason. > Producing them is also important The point is having lots of underutilised young people is a liability. Gold doesn’t join gangs or riots.
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      Agreed. There are also interests that benefit greatly from them them being a highly contested resource with restricted supply. If you are holding gold, you dont want someone to flood your market with more.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > If you are holding gold, you dont want someone to flood your market with more Right, this is why it’s a stupid analogy. That’s true for gold. But if you’re hiring young, educated people, you do want your country flooded with them.
        s1artibartfast 2y ago
        It sounds like we mostly agree on this. To be honest, I was mostly reacting to how you initially responded with a flat negation, so Im not going to steel man a simple analogy as a universal truth. I agree that these analogies all depend on which perspective you are framed in. If you are a hiring manager, you want cheap effective candidates. If you are a worker, you want a labor shortage, at least for your role. Public policy is a whole different mess. It is set by competing self-interested parties and may or may not bear any relation to the aggregate public benefit.
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JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Young, educated people are the gold of the western world No, they (we?) are not. The better analogy is a gold mine. You still need to invest in it to get anything out, and it’ll be a few years before you do. If you fail to do that, all you have is a Superfund site.

s1artibartfast 2y ago
Different analogies, but both are true. Young, educated, [and motivated] workers are a desired and contested resource. Producing them is also important.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Young, educated, [and motivated] workers are a desired and contested resource Theoretically, sure. In reality this isn’t reflected in the immigration policy of any large economy. Portugal makes news with this for a reason. > Producing them is also important The point is having lots of underutilised young people is a liability. Gold doesn’t join gangs or riots.
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    Agreed. There are also interests that benefit greatly from them them being a highly contested resource with restricted supply. If you are holding gold, you dont want someone to flood your market with more.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > If you are holding gold, you dont want someone to flood your market with more Right, this is why it’s a stupid analogy. That’s true for gold. But if you’re hiring young, educated people, you do want your country flooded with them.
      - s1artibartfast 2y ago
        It sounds like we mostly agree on this. To be honest, I was mostly reacting to how you initially responded with a flat negation, so Im not going to steel man a simple analogy as a universal truth. I agree that these analogies all depend on which perspective you are framed in. If you are a hiring manager, you want cheap effective candidates. If you are a worker, you want a labor shortage, at least for your role. Public policy is a whole different mess. It is set by competing self-interested parties and may or may not bear any relation to the aggregate public benefit.
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