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People will talk about his different contribution to economy and philanthropy. However, my favorite is the story where he instructed his hotel employees to trea

People will talk about his different contribution to economy and philanthropy. However, my favorite is the story where he instructed his hotel employees to treat stray dogs well if they enter the premises. For a man of his wealth and power, to care about a stray dog truly speaks to his humble nature. RIP Sir, you were a crown jewel of the post independence India. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/ratan-tata-instructs-taj-hotel-mumbai-to-be-a-refuge-for-a-stray-pup-picture-goes-viral/articleshow/110569888.cms https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/ratan-tata-ins...

talonx 2y ago
I came here to comment about the same thing.
aitchnyu 2y ago
On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.
- blackwateragent 2y ago
  A little ignorant here, could you explain a little more on this part. > the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work Is it 'normal' to have to work late to 10pm, or does it mean second job, etc.? Or was that just a typo and you meant 10am? My gut instinct is 10am, but wanted to ask directly out of curiosity if I was wrong and get a better cultural understanding.
  - k1kingy 2y ago
    Night shift/2nd shift is a thing.
    - blackwateragent 2y ago
      > Night shift/2nd shift is a thing. Yes, of course and definitely I considered as I mention if he/she meant 2nd job, etc. Just the phrasing threw me off as it says 'day', then '10pm' and it's written as if it is a normal occurrence for the majority of the population (which would imply night shift/2nd shift is normal working times for the majority). Just wanted to get clarification from OP on exactly what was meant to satisfy my own curiosity.
      - fakedang 2y ago
        A lot of people tend to work US/EU hours in India because they're "takin' yer herbs!!".
      - jannes 2y ago
        Maybe they're working in a call center > Call centre work is typically done overnight to accommodate time zones in the US, UK, and Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_centre_industry_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_centre_industry_in_India
  - lazide 2y ago
    It’s pretty typical for many Indians with any sync-up with the US (which is a lot) to work 12 hr day type schedules starting around 10-11am, with a long break in the middle for dinner/family time. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work eh?
  - aitchnyu 2y ago
    Crunch and 12 hour days are pervasive at tech companies. Also people got meetings with clients or overlap with client timezones (like 2 pm to 11 pm). Hence the office complexes and eateries are still busy at 10 pm. Sorry the "day" was confusing.
  - thanksgiving 2y ago
    I worked for a company with people in India and they were available through like ten am eastern time. That’s about seven thirty pm which isn’t so bad but if there was any problem my manager would not hesitate to reach out to them even at three pm eastern.
  - bongoman42 2y ago
    Its not uncommon in India, especially in offices that service the US time zones.
- jimbob45 2y ago
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  - lazide 2y ago
    The Indian subcontinent is so densely populated, very few areas can support hunting. It does happen in some rural areas. Sport hunting is not really a thing though. Most Indians (statistically) are vegetarian, and essentially obligate vegetarian due to the population density (also enforced by religion), though ‘vegetarian’ can include eggs, fish, and sometimes chicken depending on the person, time, etc. Indian Muslims are the notable exception (~13% of the population) and it does cause some serious friction at times - like riots. A favorite rage bait topic is someone killing a cow. It gets people killed pretty often.
    - stasi9 2y ago
      Statistically most indians are Non-vegetarians(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country#India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country#India). Various estimates mostly around 20-40%. Statistically i "think" more people are killed by terrorist attack then cow vigilantes.
      - lazide 2y ago
        https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/08/eight-in-ten-indians-limit-meat-in-their-diets-and-four-in-ten-consider-themselves-vegetarian/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/08/eight-in-... This one says 39% are ‘pure vegetarian’, with 81% ‘limiting meat’ (aka ‘mostly vegetarian’). If just a few percentage points shy of the total non-Muslim population, notably. Which lines up with what I’m saying. And looks like 84 killed in lynchings related to cow killings in this table [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_cow_vigilante_violence_in_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_cow_vig...]. I didn’t say a lot died, just that it is a good rage bait topic when someone gets accused of it - and people do get killed over it. Terrorism in India is a big problem, so yes the number of deaths swamp those 12k or so? [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_India]
- Karrot_Kream 2y ago
  I'm laughing that this is the subthread that generates the most conversation so far on a thread about Ratan Tata's death.
  - bravetraveler 2y ago
    See also: John Wick films, memes. Many signs we're better for animals than ourselves
- known 2y ago
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- joncrane 2y ago
  Can you link to some incidents of stray dogs entering houses and killing babies?
  - ericd 2y ago
    Not sure about entering houses, but a friend’s 5 year old just got bitten by a stray dog on the stomach during a month stay in India, she had to go through a course of rabies shots in the stomach.
  - aitchnyu 2y ago
    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/telangana-news-dog-mauls-5-month-old-baby-to-death-in-telangana-home-5661085 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/telangana-news-dog-mauls-5-m... https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/pack-of-stray-dogs-maul-infant-to-death-in-hyderabad/articleshow/111822453.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/pack-of-s... Just from the tons of articles from Google.
- kylehotchkiss 2y ago
  > they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics Are you talking about monkeys or dogs? I guess if you were talking about monkeys you forgot about how they raid the fridge and pretend to do laundry sometimes.
  - aitchnyu 2y ago
    Im talking about dogs https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/telangana-news-dog-mauls-5-month-old-baby-to-death-in-telangana-home-5661085 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/telangana-news-dog-mauls-5-m... https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/pack-of-stray-dogs-maul-infant-to-death-in-hyderabad/articleshow/111822453.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/pack-of-s...
jajko 2y ago
That really isn't that common, IMHO and speaks volumes about his empathy. Its true that my 6-month backpacking experiences are 14 and 16 years old and India is rather a continent on its own, not only population wise but also culturally and geographically so don't want to generalize here. I've seen utter ignorance from ie older girls to stray dogs dying in the middle of the street, while I was reeling from mild shock sitting on the curb. I guess after few years there I would be desensitised too. Cows have it easy there, other animals not so much by western standards. Its true that stray dogs specifically are also a potential threat, the picture ain't black & white.
keybored 2y ago
> For a man of his wealth and power, to care about a stray dog truly speaks to his humble nature. Caring about something is no feat of character or strength when that just means making someone else do it.
aravindputrevu 2y ago
His service to animals is laudable.

talonx 2y ago

I came here to comment about the same thing.

aitchnyu 2y ago

On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.

blackwateragent 2y ago
A little ignorant here, could you explain a little more on this part. > the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work Is it 'normal' to have to work late to 10pm, or does it mean second job, etc.? Or was that just a typo and you meant 10am? My gut instinct is 10am, but wanted to ask directly out of curiosity if I was wrong and get a better cultural understanding.
- k1kingy 2y ago
  Night shift/2nd shift is a thing.
  - blackwateragent 2y ago
    > Night shift/2nd shift is a thing. Yes, of course and definitely I considered as I mention if he/she meant 2nd job, etc. Just the phrasing threw me off as it says 'day', then '10pm' and it's written as if it is a normal occurrence for the majority of the population (which would imply night shift/2nd shift is normal working times for the majority). Just wanted to get clarification from OP on exactly what was meant to satisfy my own curiosity.
    - fakedang 2y ago
      A lot of people tend to work US/EU hours in India because they're "takin' yer herbs!!".
    - jannes 2y ago
      Maybe they're working in a call center > Call centre work is typically done overnight to accommodate time zones in the US, UK, and Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_centre_industry_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_centre_industry_in_India
- lazide 2y ago
  It’s pretty typical for many Indians with any sync-up with the US (which is a lot) to work 12 hr day type schedules starting around 10-11am, with a long break in the middle for dinner/family time. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work eh?
- aitchnyu 2y ago
  Crunch and 12 hour days are pervasive at tech companies. Also people got meetings with clients or overlap with client timezones (like 2 pm to 11 pm). Hence the office complexes and eateries are still busy at 10 pm. Sorry the "day" was confusing.
- thanksgiving 2y ago
  I worked for a company with people in India and they were available through like ten am eastern time. That’s about seven thirty pm which isn’t so bad but if there was any problem my manager would not hesitate to reach out to them even at three pm eastern.
- bongoman42 2y ago
  Its not uncommon in India, especially in offices that service the US time zones.
jimbob45 2y ago
[flagged]
- lazide 2y ago
  The Indian subcontinent is so densely populated, very few areas can support hunting. It does happen in some rural areas. Sport hunting is not really a thing though. Most Indians (statistically) are vegetarian, and essentially obligate vegetarian due to the population density (also enforced by religion), though ‘vegetarian’ can include eggs, fish, and sometimes chicken depending on the person, time, etc. Indian Muslims are the notable exception (~13% of the population) and it does cause some serious friction at times - like riots. A favorite rage bait topic is someone killing a cow. It gets people killed pretty often.
  - stasi9 2y ago
    Statistically most indians are Non-vegetarians(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country#India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country#India). Various estimates mostly around 20-40%. Statistically i "think" more people are killed by terrorist attack then cow vigilantes.
    - lazide 2y ago
      https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/08/eight-in-ten-indians-limit-meat-in-their-diets-and-four-in-ten-consider-themselves-vegetarian/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/08/eight-in-... This one says 39% are ‘pure vegetarian’, with 81% ‘limiting meat’ (aka ‘mostly vegetarian’). If just a few percentage points shy of the total non-Muslim population, notably. Which lines up with what I’m saying. And looks like 84 killed in lynchings related to cow killings in this table [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_cow_vigilante_violence_in_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_cow_vig...]. I didn’t say a lot died, just that it is a good rage bait topic when someone gets accused of it - and people do get killed over it. Terrorism in India is a big problem, so yes the number of deaths swamp those 12k or so? [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_India]
Karrot_Kream 2y ago
I'm laughing that this is the subthread that generates the most conversation so far on a thread about Ratan Tata's death.
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  See also: John Wick films, memes. Many signs we're better for animals than ourselves
known 2y ago
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joncrane 2y ago
Can you link to some incidents of stray dogs entering houses and killing babies?
- ericd 2y ago
  Not sure about entering houses, but a friend’s 5 year old just got bitten by a stray dog on the stomach during a month stay in India, she had to go through a course of rabies shots in the stomach.
- aitchnyu 2y ago
  https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/telangana-news-dog-mauls-5-month-old-baby-to-death-in-telangana-home-5661085 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/telangana-news-dog-mauls-5-m... https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/pack-of-stray-dogs-maul-infant-to-death-in-hyderabad/articleshow/111822453.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/pack-of-s... Just from the tons of articles from Google.
kylehotchkiss 2y ago
> they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics Are you talking about monkeys or dogs? I guess if you were talking about monkeys you forgot about how they raid the fridge and pretend to do laundry sometimes.
- aitchnyu 2y ago
  Im talking about dogs https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/telangana-news-dog-mauls-5-month-old-baby-to-death-in-telangana-home-5661085 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/telangana-news-dog-mauls-5-m... https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/pack-of-stray-dogs-maul-infant-to-death-in-hyderabad/articleshow/111822453.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/pack-of-s...

jajko 2y ago

That really isn't that common, IMHO and speaks volumes about his empathy. Its true that my 6-month backpacking experiences are 14 and 16 years old and India is rather a continent on its own, not only population wise but also culturally and geographically so don't want to generalize here. I've seen utter ignorance from ie older girls to stray dogs dying in the middle of the street, while I was reeling from mild shock sitting on the curb. I guess after few years there I would be desensitised too. Cows have it easy there, other animals not so much by western standards. Its true that stray dogs specifically are also a potential threat, the picture ain't black & white.

keybored 2y ago

> For a man of his wealth and power, to care about a stray dog truly speaks to his humble nature. Caring about something is no feat of character or strength when that just means making someone else do it.

aravindputrevu 2y ago

His service to animals is laudable.