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It's called torrent protocol and it doesn't work, no one wants to spend money and bandwidth hosting a god forsaken movie or book that only a handful of people c
by aucisson_masque 2y ago
It's called torrent protocol and it doesn't work, no one wants to spend money and bandwidth hosting a god forsaken movie or book that only a handful of people care about.
- 0x1ch 2y agoIt does work, when you don't notice it. We need sane limits and permanent seeders. This is why so many regular people get hit with ISP notices, they don't know they've seeded Captain America for the last six months every time they started their PC.
- idle_zealot 2y agoYup. If browsers built in support for magnet links and (on desktop) defaulted to seeding with some capped bandwidth then a lot of centralized hosting platforms would become unnecessary.
- kmeisthax 2y agoYou can build something very similar with WebRTC. Browsers already have P2P networking capability, it's just not immediately interoperable with BitTorrent clients. Standardizing some sort of BitTorrent over WebRTC bridge and adding it to BT clients would fix this problem. That being said, please do not host content this way. P2P blows away the already thin privacy guarantees that the web provides. Anyone seeding the site gets the IP addresses of everyone on that site, and can trivially correlate that with other sites to build detailed dossiers on, if not individual people, at least households[0] of people. After all, that's how the MAFIAA[1] sent your ISP DMCA scare letters back in the 2000s P2P wars. [0] IPv4 CGNAT would frustrate this level of tracking, but IPv6 is still subnet per subscriber. Note that you can't use individual v6 addresses because we realized very early on that the whole "put the MAC in the lower 64 bits of the address" thing was also a privacy nightmare, so IPv6 hosts rotate addresses every hour or so. [1] Music And Film Industry Association of America, a ficticious merger of the MPAA and RIAA in a hoax article
- idle_zealot 2y agoI hadn't considered the privacy implications. For this to be workable, you'd need to pair it with near-ubiquitous use of some anonymizing overlay network.
- palata 2y ago> You can build something very similar with WebRTC. Isn't that exactly what WebTorrent is?
- geraldhh 2y agoiirc opera browser tried that
- squarefoot 2y agoNot much money and bandwidth if you aren't on a metered connection. You can share tens of gigabytes or more on a cheap read only flash plugged into into a $25 single board computer that draws way less than a full PC and can be left sitting there near the router. Just limit its bandwidth on the torrent client and you won't even notice it during online gaming. The client can be as small as the Transmission daemon running headless on one of the many Debian based embedded distros: all control through either the web interface or from its client: no monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. just a small cheap box. https://www.friendlyelec.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=304 https://www.friendlyelec.com/index.php?route=product/product... (just an example, as it's way overkill for the task) https://transmissionbt.com/ https://transmissionbt.com/ https://github.com/transmission-remote-gui/transgui https://github.com/transmission-remote-gui/transgui
- oxygen_crisis 2y agoI see 24 seeders for the entire 72-episode run of the 1991 sitcom "Herman's Head" which was so poorly rated that it's never seen a home media or streaming release, your premise doesn't hold any water at all.
- pessimizer 2y agoPeople are pirating comic books and cookbooks from the 30s; there are a lot of people in this world, if something goes on the web and you tell everyone you put it there, it's pretty much preserved. It's only law enforcement that kills free availability of everything all the time online, for better or for worse. With copyright, as individuals we get to trade all of the wonderful stuff already made (and long paid for) for the flood of minute-old shit and sludge inundating us online constantly. It's a bad trade. Maybe copyright should stop encouraging creativity; the answer to how "artists" would get paid post-copyright might be "who cares, quit if you want." We already have Herman's Head, we don't need any more crap.
- sgc 2y agoI never thought about UBI and copyright - but as soon as you say that, it is immediately obvious to me that when we have some kind of UBI, copyright should be dramatically reduced.
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoCopyright should be reduced in general. 20 years was already excessive for exclusive control over culture, 200 is just absurd.
- sgc 2y agoI 100% agree. Just pointing out that UBI changes the discourse on this subject.
- throw10920 2y ago> With copyright, as individuals we get to trade all of the wonderful stuff already made (and long paid for) for the flood of minute-old shit and sludge inundating us online constantly. What does this have to do with copyright? People post sludge online even in chaotic meme environments where copyright is irrelevant and people constantly take and repost each others' stuff.
- homebrewer 2y agoI've been seeding some unpopular torrents for ten years (would have done for even longer if I did not change the torrent client a decade ago). "No one" is too strong a word, as usual with these absolutist things.
- aucisson_masque 2y agoAgree, shouldn't have said no one. But you got to recognize that some torrent are most popular than other. I would have absolutely no trouble downloading the latest marvel movie but if you are looking for some old Soviet movie, Iranian movie or even old American movie then you're in bad luck. I've never seen more than 0 seeder on thepiratebay.
- Timber-6539 2y agoIf the whole world has bandwidth available for TikTok, it can make the same available for sharing torrent files.
- trinix912 2y agoIn addition to the costs, I'd say it's also that no one wants to risk getting sued like the IA is getting.