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“According to their twitter, they’re doing it just to do it. Just because they can. No statement, no idea, no demands.” A special place in Hell…
by ErikAugust 2y ago
“According to their twitter, they’re doing it just to do it. Just because they can. No statement, no idea, no demands.”
A special place in Hell…
- Mr-Hyde 2y ago[flagged]
- llm_trw 2y agoA demonstration of what collateral damage actually means. The bracker was a terrorist so we killed the candle stick makers family.
- Sabinus 2y agoI think the existing collateral damage examples were pretty actual already. By burying terrorist headquarters under civilian apartment buildings, Hezbollah guarantees collateral damage.
- llm_trw 2y agoThe type of logic leads to schools in the US being valid targets so long as a drone pilot drops off their kids to school on the way to work.
- Sabinus 2y agoNo it doesn't. The US does not deliberately hide it's drone pilots among civilians and targeting their place of work or the drone storages would not harm civilians.
- llm_trw 2y agoI'm sorry that your governments rules of engagement are what you'd consider terrorism. Maybe you should do something about it?
- ceejayoz 2y agoDoes this extend to putting a military base next to a shopping mall? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaKirya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaKirya What’s the permissible distance in a three mile wide strip of land among the most densely populated in the world?
- neoromantique 2y agoTo be fair, the base was there long before any residential development nearby, and the part that is near residential development is simply offices.
- deleted 2y ago[deleted]
- bldbleep 2y ago[dead]
- wyldberry 2y agoHackers can start to learn what kinetic response is then.
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- smashah 2y ago[flagged]
- Mr-Hyde 2y ago100%. https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta/status/1844080692772401399?t=j3xDzkZ_H8FWA3f2TtXx1w&s=19 https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta/status/1844080692772401399?t=j3xDz... This Twitter account is suspicious and odd. I don't think anyone doing this is stupid enough to actually believe that they're doing it to "help Palestine." Seems like a job by Israel or supporting countries pretending to be supporters of Palestine.
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- portaouflop 2y agoWhat is the connection? I don’t understand how this would help either Isreal or Palestine?
- odo1242 2y agoWe have no idea, that’s just what they said
- philwelch 2y agoWe have an entire generation of activists who have somehow been programmed into believing that disruptive, moronic, antisocial acts of “protest” are a way to effect change, whether it’s vandalizing historic artwork or blockading a freeway. And the Internet Archive is even a museum of sorts, so you can see how the rationale would track.
- navigate8310 2y agoAre you suggesting something similar along the lines of murdering your own citizens and showcasing them as victims? Something akin to 911 being an insider job?
- bawolff 2y ago
- Aachen 2y agoThat's a strange thing to read on Hacker news. Isn't that description the definition of hack value? As in http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hack-value.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hack-value.html Now, it depends what the "it" is referring to here, but so far all I've heard is about an alert() message saying the usernames will be sent to a breach alerting site. If they're doing it just for the heck of it, it's still costing a lot of people a lot of time that they could have spent doing better things, but I'd reserve special places in hell for the people who do plan this out carefully and make malicious demands
- jonahx 2y agoThere is a big difference between doing something for pure curiosity, love, or exploration and doing something directly harmful to other people for the same reasons. One is art; the other is sadism.
- Aachen 2y agoI'm not sure that placing free long distance calls isn't harmful to the org whose infrastructure you're using for your own benefit, but 2600 (Hz) is a respected hacker magazine and phreaking and Cap'n crunch whistles are seen as cool Hacking the Internet Archive and only placing an alert with a provocative message, I could see my teenage self do that. My judgment of the character is going to depend on what it turns out they've actually done Of course, my grown up self (or late teen also, as I've done responsible disclosures back then as well) would rather have seen them do a coordinated vulnerability disclosure, but alas, I just meant to remark upon the "special place in hell" for not having a plan or motive bit *Edit:* wait, I just saw in the article (I opened the thread before the link was changed) that this quote refers to a DDoS, not the alert() message that the thread was initially about > the site was experiencing a DDoS attack, posting on Mastodon that “According to their twitter, they’re doing it just to do it. That's indeed just destructive and not related to (hacker) curiosity...
- jonahx 2y agoThere's a spectrum and case by case judgement. I'd agree your examples are harmless even if technically they harm the phone company. Taking down the internet archive just for the hell of it has a distinctly less "cool" or "fun" flavor, to my eye.
- hexage1814 2y ago>No statement, no idea, no demands. A special place in Hell… I mean... would it be better if the hackers had asked for money or did it to protest global warming or something?
- kibwen 2y ago"Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, but at last it's an ethos."
- the_gorilla 2y agoI can't imagine having to experience the world exclusively through WW2 propaganda.
- manquer 2y agoYes? For society in general, for professionals in criminal justice system and also to some extent even victim as well, it is lot harder when there is no motive. Perpetrators without motive can not be negotiated with, punishment may not a strong deterrent, rehabilitation is lot harder. Economic crimes or crimes of passion or ones as a result of addiction can have a path to rehabilitation and recidivism can be solved by tackling the underlying issue like poverty, addition etc. Even solving crimes without motive can be harder as there is less assumptions we can make about the perpetrator.
- 89l89l8l 2y ago100% the result of boredom. Visit website, notice its design is old and crusty and you start to dig deeper. That's all it takes. Funny how we just expect hackers to have a manifesto now.
- edm0nd 2y agonah. its politically motivated hacktivists that are pro Palestinian. See their Twitter https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta could also just be RU larping under another flag.
- chimeracoder 2y ago> nah. its politically motivated hacktivists that are pro Palestinian. This is... the most obvious false flag I've ever seen
- edm0nd 2y agoWe've seen it happen with RU flying under other flags with their Anonymous Sudan campaign. This could be a new campaign like this by them.
- xyst 2y ago“For the lulz”
- edm0nd 2y agoIts being done by pro Palestine Islamic hacktivists. They stated on twitter because IA is controlled by "the US" and is "pro Israel". could also just be RU larping under another flag. They have done this in the past with groups like Anonymous Sudan.
- yard2010 2y agoIt's like the wild west in which a group of outlaws could just start a mess in a bar denying everyone from having fun there. This is why we can't have nice things.