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> The album that exploded punk rock 30 years ago, re-exploded onto obscure, obsolete, and inconvenient formats. It's really strange. I probably don't get it.
by TacticalCoder 2y ago
> The album that exploded punk rock 30 years ago, re-exploded onto obscure, obsolete, and inconvenient formats.
It's really strange. I probably don't get it.
I was there listening to punk rock and "grunge" rock in 1994. Back then nobody listened to music on his computer (the .mp3 format didn't even exist yet: at least not with that name) except if it was using the PC's CD drive, to play an audio CD.
1994 was kind "peak" quality: the loudness war on CDs just hadn't started yet and listening to music was often amazing for it was often played directly from CDs on actual stereos.
Crappy sound only arrived a few years when the first, lame, mp3 encoders arrived and became ubiquitous and everybody made lossy rip of CDs (because we didn't know how to rip losslessly yet from CDs) and then encoded them with poor encoders at shitty bitrates (like 128 kbps mp3 were really a thing in the late 90s, for Napster sharing).
So it's really strange to take music from 1994, which is precisely a year were nobody listened to "shitty format" music yet on his PC.
FWIW I had my first CD player in 1988 or so.
It's only in the late 90s that music quality for listening experience went seriously downhill, with people listening to shitty 128 kbps mp3 on their shitty, tiny, Logitech speakers.
Nowadays all is good and fine again: Tidal, Spotify, Qobuz... It's all good sounding again. And many acceptable soundbars and systems came out (like Sonos and whatnots).
So yup I don't get it: to me it's "fake retro" because 1994 music was enjoyed from CDs, on speakers hooked to a stereo (which were never as shitty as those tiny Logitech speakers and similar hooked to PCs).
I just don't understand what this is: I must be getting old... But then as I'm getting old, it means I was there in 1994 and it's definitely not the 1994 I remember. It's kinda fake retro for something that never existed.
- kristianp 2y agoSpeaking of the loudness wars, remember when Californication came out? I thought my copy (on cdrom) had been ripped from a distorted tape. Still one of my favourites though.
- tayo42 2y ago128 isnt a thing? What bit rate does Spotify use for streaming online regular quality?
- vessenes 2y agoWhile I grant you that nobody enjoyed music directly from a Teddy Ruxpin in the 1990s, I think you’re wrong about this. It is nostalgic. And I think you’re missing the point that it’s supposed to be fun - they have player piano rolls and wax tubes for goodness sake. About the 90s though - people used gameboys. People used PCs. Those devices had tons of music and music culture. Chiptunes, mod music makers and players, the demo scene are all late 80s into early 90s. The very first sound blaster card wasn’t even launched until November 1989; before then it was all pc speakers. On the streets in the 1990s, people used walkmans, listened to tapes; in cars eight track was nostalgic, people listened to the radio and their tapes a lot. I didn’t have my first portable CD player until 1997 or so.