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I think of punk as being three completely separate variables, and for any individual or band they're independent of each other: 1) Ethos 2) Aesthetics/look &
by jghn 2y ago
I think of punk as being three completely separate variables, and for any individual or band they're independent of each other:
1) Ethos
2) Aesthetics/look & feel
3) Musical sound
So someone could be punk as fuck ethos-wise but love listening to Yanni. Meanwhile a band could have a straight up anarcho-punk sound, but otherwise be white collar wage slaves
But this is the root of so much disagreement. When Green Day started ascending in the 80s, people were pointing out the poppy music as not being "punk". But that's just one variable.
- doublerabbit 2y agoYou missed the fourth. Rebellion Punk is about rebellion, pop-punk is a good umbrella term as they had rebellious vibes but to call Green Day punk is a bit of a stretch.
- jghn 2y agoI was including that as part of `Ethos`. DYI, anti-authority, etc.