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I'm a longtime fan of Linux and have used it as my desktop of choice for years, but apparently you and I have a different idea of what "beautiful" is. That scr

I'm a longtime fan of Linux and have used it as my desktop of choice for years, but apparently you and I have a different idea of what "beautiful" is. That screenshot is a ghastly smattering of black, grey, and red, with no unified look or feel. Sublime Text is really good looking in its own right, but that overall desktop doesn't look appealing to me. Granted, I use Gnome Shell for my desktop of choice, and find that much closer to my definition of "beauty", while KDE4 is busy chasing some idea of beauty that more resembles a mish-mash of Win7 style glass that spends more time distracting my eyes than allowing me to work, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I think OSX has come closest to the mark of "beauty" from a desktop environment, but it's such a terrible window manager compared to X11 that I can't stand using it except when I have no other good choice. Even then the only thing keeping me from insanity is a set of third party window managing tools that still only get me about 50% of the way to where I want to be.

naner 14y ago
Gnome shell, while still somewhat unfinished, has some very cool ideas. I really like the JavaScript shell extensions that you can enable/disable right from the Gnome Shell Extension website. I was surprised when I stumbled on that.
laconian 14y ago
Do you even notice the "beauty" after spending a week with it?
- x3c 14y ago
  You notice ugliness everytime you use it. The beauty in UX/UI/Window Manager lies in it just being there, not distracting but complementing one when he/she is working. That's my definition of beauty. I can go days without noticing it and if I take a step back and take in the whole experience, I find the beauty. Ubuntu does it for me. Especially because I can take time to make it beautiful for me and I can have a free hand while doing it.
- pooriaazimi 14y ago
  No, but the opposite is true. I curse on top of my voice every time I have to use Windows (which is disgustingly ugly in my opinion).
planckscnst 14y ago
It's a nitpick, but X11 isn't a window manager; it's just a graphics layer - more like OS X's Quartz. If you run Gnome Shell with compositing enabled, your window manager is Mutter; if you run Gnome Shell in fallback mode, your window manager is Metacity. That is, unless you change it, and that is a reason I love Linux.
- nuclear_eclipse 14y ago
  Very true, I misspoke, and meant more in the terms of "standard X11-based window managers", which all tend to share the same basic set of features, eg, highlight/middle-paste, alt-dragging to move windows, etc.
antihero 14y ago
> but apparently you and I have a different idea of what "beautiful" is I'm sure we do, I'll justify what I claimed, though - the colour scheme is unified across the entire system, fonts are readable, the borders are thin and the windows have a little spacing so it isn't too crowded. I've toyed with a lot of aesthetics, and I'm quite happy with this one at the moment. Yes, it's very information heavy, but it suits the way I work, I find it visually appealing (though I can understand why people who like OSX's aesthetics would dislike it), but quite a lot of thought has gone into how it looks :)

naner 14y ago

Gnome shell, while still somewhat unfinished, has some very cool ideas. I really like the JavaScript shell extensions that you can enable/disable right from the Gnome Shell Extension website. I was surprised when I stumbled on that.

laconian 14y ago

Do you even notice the "beauty" after spending a week with it?

x3c 14y ago
You notice ugliness everytime you use it. The beauty in UX/UI/Window Manager lies in it just being there, not distracting but complementing one when he/she is working. That's my definition of beauty. I can go days without noticing it and if I take a step back and take in the whole experience, I find the beauty. Ubuntu does it for me. Especially because I can take time to make it beautiful for me and I can have a free hand while doing it.
pooriaazimi 14y ago
No, but the opposite is true. I curse on top of my voice every time I have to use Windows (which is disgustingly ugly in my opinion).

planckscnst 14y ago

It's a nitpick, but X11 isn't a window manager; it's just a graphics layer - more like OS X's Quartz. If you run Gnome Shell with compositing enabled, your window manager is Mutter; if you run Gnome Shell in fallback mode, your window manager is Metacity. That is, unless you change it, and that is a reason I love Linux.

nuclear_eclipse 14y ago
Very true, I misspoke, and meant more in the terms of "standard X11-based window managers", which all tend to share the same basic set of features, eg, highlight/middle-paste, alt-dragging to move windows, etc.

antihero 14y ago

> but apparently you and I have a different idea of what "beautiful" is I'm sure we do, I'll justify what I claimed, though - the colour scheme is unified across the entire system, fonts are readable, the borders are thin and the windows have a little spacing so it isn't too crowded. I've toyed with a lot of aesthetics, and I'm quite happy with this one at the moment. Yes, it's very information heavy, but it suits the way I work, I find it visually appealing (though I can understand why people who like OSX's aesthetics would dislike it), but quite a lot of thought has gone into how it looks :)