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> how weak we are in the face of determined actors with financial motives. And a highly addictive product. Nicotine is just plain bad for us anyway, so all the
by DragonStrength 2y ago
> how weak we are in the face of determined actors with financial motives.
And a highly addictive product. Nicotine is just plain bad for us anyway, so all the "safe" alternatives are just BS.
- Freak_NL 2y agoAnd the child-friendly flavours (bubblegum ice blast! crème brûlée! strawberry!) and packaging just plain immoral. Oddly, nicotine as such is not that harmful, comparatively. It's the addiction (and the potential to escalate to inhaling carcinogens) which makes it so bad.
- bluGill 2y agoChewing tobacco is harmful too, and there you are not inhaling anything. Nicotine is harmful in itself. (that is why plants make it - it tends to kill predators. Humans are just large enough that it dilutes in our body by enough to not kill)
- Freak_NL 2y agoChewing tobacco is nastily harmful for a variety of reasons, but there too nicotine is mostly only harmful in that it is highly addictive: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking/in-depth/chewing-tobacco/art-20047428 https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking/in... Nicotine poisoning is possible, but not for adults at normal dosages. It's all the other crap your inhaling, sucking, or melting which is carcinogenic or otherwise directly harmful. Taking nicotine regularly isn't that healthy, but the reason nicotine is bad is really mostly down to its addictive nature.
- dyauspitr 2y agoNicotine by itself is pretty much harmless.
- ompogUe 2y agoThe fatal human dose has been estimated to be about 50 to 60 mg https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/idlh/54115.html https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/idlh/54115.html
- consteval 2y agoReally this is one of the more useless statistics. It's pretty much impossible to OD unless you're a toddler and you accidentally drink juice. What matters is the affects small amounts of nicotine, repeatedly, have over time. Nicotine increases blood pressure and so it slowly destroys your cardiovascular system. Smoking is, of course, bad for your lungs. The combination of lung damage and heart damage is deadly. Typically heart failure will require more oxygen in your blood to make up for the fact your heart doesn't work. But the lungs are bad at extracting oxygen when they have pulmonary damage.
- ompogUe 2y agoMaybe not a useful statistic, but it's definitely 100% not harmless in the correct dosage. It has been successfully used for both murder and suicide. Being water-soluble, just soak tobacco leaves in water and you'll eventually be able to extract a useful amount. I smoked for >20 years, quit for 10, then started again when dealing with grief after my partner passed away, and smoked for another 10. I get it, literally: high-blood pressure, etc. Although, when quitting, it was always the tar that really drove me crazy. Another thing I've realized, is that smoking is a double-whammy vector towards heart disease: smoking promotes heart disease directly, but smoking also promotes gum disease, and gum disease promotes heart disease.
- DragonStrength 2y agoIts cardiovascular effects are not harmless by any stretch.