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Is anyone really surprised? At the risk of sounding racist (though I'm Indian, so I guess I get some leeway here), there are likely more biases at play than it
by varun_chopra 2y ago
Is anyone really surprised?
At the risk of sounding racist (though I'm Indian, so I guess I get some leeway here), there are likely more biases at play than it seems.
You’ll see South or North Indians from a particular state prefer hiring employees from the same state, who speak the same language, and who look like them. And it doesn’t stop there. Caste discrimination plays a role too, and it even has its own Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_discrimination_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_discrimination_in_the_Un.... See also:
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalit
[2] https://harpercollinsin.medium.com/how-does-anyone-know-what-your-caste-is-an-excerpt-from-ants-among-elephants-f2aa71e24f26 https://harpercollinsin.medium.com/how-does-anyone-know-what...
This kind of thing is so rampant in India that you hear about it all the time on Reddit.
So yeah, Cognizant has been found guilty against non-Indians but they probably do this to other Indians.
- romwell 2y ago[flagged]
- wepple 2y ago[flagged]
- lazide 2y agoThe beauty of casteism, and religious discrimination (and less so racism/sexism, though it is certainly possible) is the near fractal nature of the ability to discriminate against someone. After all, there are 3000 ‘main’ castes and 25,000 sub-castes. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India], and with religious discrimination you can always go into sectarianism/what guru to follow. It’s the discrimination version of the world’s largest choose your own adventure book.
- orlp 2y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fAcxcxoZ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fAcxcxoZ8
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoThe fractal nature of it is truly remarkable. When you zoom out, you see what was essentially one people split along religious borders with India and Pakistan. Zoom in, and you see finer and finer levels of cultural discrimination.
- lazide 2y agoYup. One of the most fundamental parts of the human experience is that everything is relative. So, when someone wants to feel better, or even objectively have it better, the easiest way to do it is to make sure there is someone else having it worse nearby. And doing that all the time based off fuzzy, changeable things like merit is a lot of work. Or even worse, something that someone has to do all the time or maintain, like results or wealth. Both for the downtrodden trying to improve their station, and the ones ‘on top’ trying to keep them down. Much more stable to systematize it, and use things like permanent labels on entire family lines, eh? And bonus points if you can do it in a fine grained enough way, that essentially everyone has someone lower than them to shit on. Then all anyone has to do is exist, and push the buttons provided for them. Easy peasy.
- red-iron-pine 2y ago> The fractal nature of it is truly remarkable. When you zoom out, you see what was essentially one people split along religious borders with India and Pakistan. Zoom in, and you see finer and finer levels of cultural discrimination. In-group, Out-group Theory at play https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_and_out-group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_and_out-group
- dartharva 2y agoAll discrimination is contextual and local. The number of groups has nothing to do with it.
- lazide 2y agoSo you say, but history has shown that if groups don’t exist to allow easy discrimination, they will be created to allow such discrimination. So it’s a good sign of long, well established, and ingrained discrimination, eh? With associated infrastructure to make it easier to continue, and ‘fairer’ in that it allows almost everyone to have someone under them to take their own angst out on. (Except those ‘outside the system’ anyway, which historically were the Dalits, but now even they are in the system eh?)
- dartharva 2y ago> So you say, but history has shown that if groups don’t exist to allow easy discrimination, they will be created to allow such discrimination. Yes, that's what I am saying. In- and out-groups are made contextually in each unique situation. > So it’s a good sign of long, well established, and ingrained discrimination, eh? With associated infrastructure to make it easier to continue, and ‘fairer’ in that it allows almost everyone to have someone under them to take their own angst out on. (Except those ‘outside the system’ anyway, which historically were the Dalits, but now even they are in the system eh?) Can't understand what you're trying to say here.
- lazide 2y agoCan’t understand, or refuse to understand? Why create new groups when you have proven and well trod ones handy to choose from?
- TrapLord_Rhodo 2y agoyour thoughts seem to align closely with René Girard's theories on mimetic desire and scapegoating.
- tho342424334234 2y ago[flagged]
- mschuster91 2y ago> However, having people of similar cultural/linguistic backgrounds helps a lot with communication, both inter-personal and for business. It helps on communication, definitely - but it is a detriment against "fresh ideas" or when testing out new products.
- dudefeliciano 2y agoso tired of the self-hating/self-loathing label when someone criticises their own nationality/ethnicity
- tho342424334234 2y ago[flagged]
- meiraleal 2y agoYou can't make yourself look less racist by pointing to other racist cultures (while describing with details your own racist behavior).
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- qnleigh 2y ago> At the risk of sounding racist... I wouldn't consider it racist to call out racism.