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The thing that makes markets work is the struggle. A Darwinian survival of the fittest in a way. Once the struggle is over and only one contestant remains, the

The thing that makes markets work is the struggle. A Darwinian survival of the fittest in a way. Once the struggle is over and only one contestant remains, the results are generally dystopian. Also I believe that even when working optimally the Darwinian mechanism can't solve certain problems. Some things need to be dealt with by a group of motivated people working for other goals than profit. Markets gave us compuserve and facebook while CERN gave us the open web, for example.

someluccc 2y ago
Yes I can see the dystopian consequences of google’s search monopoly profits, which they have used to do such horrible things as: - Providing a free alternative to Microsoft’s monopolized office suite and desktop OS - Provide a free alternative to Apple’s mobile OS, spurring a revolution in access to the internet for the world’s poor - Provide free global maps with streetview sights - Provide a free to access video platform with invaluable educational resources that allows millions of creators to make a living and that likely wouldn’t exist save for Google’s monumental investments and ability to sustain years of losses - Research given away for free that ignited the current AI revolution - Research given away for free that is revolutionizing medicine and drug development In sum, truly a horrible thing they’ve done
- ta1243 2y ago
  Very few of that is free. openstreetmap - that's free. Google maps is an advertising and data mining platform.
  - someluccc 2y ago
    So you’re telling me the evil monopolist that charges nothing has a competitor, and that competitor is free? Which is why we must break up the evil monopolist?
    - Kon5ole 2y ago
      The case against Google surely is that they shouldn't be allowed to use their dominant position in ad sales to price dump unrelated businesses until all competitors are gone. Like for example having youtube be free until they're the only game in town then start charging 14 dollars monthly to avoid 30% ads. Or targeting ads to gmail users so you can artificially provide a cheaper mail service than anyone else. There's an actual law saying you can't do stuff like that.

someluccc 2y ago

Yes I can see the dystopian consequences of google’s search monopoly profits, which they have used to do such horrible things as: - Providing a free alternative to Microsoft’s monopolized office suite and desktop OS - Provide a free alternative to Apple’s mobile OS, spurring a revolution in access to the internet for the world’s poor - Provide free global maps with streetview sights - Provide a free to access video platform with invaluable educational resources that allows millions of creators to make a living and that likely wouldn’t exist save for Google’s monumental investments and ability to sustain years of losses - Research given away for free that ignited the current AI revolution - Research given away for free that is revolutionizing medicine and drug development In sum, truly a horrible thing they’ve done

ta1243 2y ago
Very few of that is free. openstreetmap - that's free. Google maps is an advertising and data mining platform.
- someluccc 2y ago
  So you’re telling me the evil monopolist that charges nothing has a competitor, and that competitor is free? Which is why we must break up the evil monopolist?
  - Kon5ole 2y ago
    The case against Google surely is that they shouldn't be allowed to use their dominant position in ad sales to price dump unrelated businesses until all competitors are gone. Like for example having youtube be free until they're the only game in town then start charging 14 dollars monthly to avoid 30% ads. Or targeting ads to gmail users so you can artificially provide a cheaper mail service than anyone else. There's an actual law saying you can't do stuff like that.