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If the unions really did shut down ports, I would be completely in favor of changing laws to allow non-union employees to work critical infrastructure. Critica

If the unions really did shut down ports, I would be completely in favor of changing laws to allow non-union employees to work critical infrastructure. Critical infrastructure like ports, power plants, and sewage should not be allowed to be held hostage to further enrich - at the expense of the public - a group that already makes well above average wages.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
I wouldn't, pay your labor. And if you only read that one report that says how a third of workers make 200k+, you should read their hours and actual hourly pay. That overtime pay is probably also in their contracts. And if you would rather push overtime pay than hire more docks men, you reap what you sow.
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- Manuel_D 2y ago
  Their hourly pay is misleading, because of overtime and container royalties. > And if you would rather push overtime pay than hire more docks men, you reap what you sow. The ports would absolutely love to hire more workers. It's the union that tightly controls membership, to rake in that lucrative overtime.
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    >Their hourly pay is misleading, because of overtime and container royalties. Overtime isn't a good thing to rely on. Especially blue collar work where your phyaical body is being whittled away. And yes, I wish we had more royalties for jobs. Everyone would jump on AI overnight if we got a kickback. >The ports would absolutely love to hire more workers. It's the union that tightly controls membership, to rake in that lucrative overtime. Seems backwards that people would want to work 14+ hours a day to make more money. What's money without a life to live? At least CEOs can vacation at their leisure. Blue collar overtime is just draining your life.
    - Manuel_D 2y ago
      > Seems backwards that people would want to work 14+ hours a day to make more money. What's money without a life to live? At least CEOs can vacation at their leisure. Blue collar overtime is just draining your life. That's exactly what people are doing. The shipping companies would gladly hire two longshoremen to work at normal hours instead of paying one worker overtime. Unions are extremely restrictive with membership. There's no lack of people trying to become longshoremen. Only 3% of applicants were granted position in one port: https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/02/longshoreman-lottery-results-announced-for-long-beach-la-ports-find-out-if-youre-on-the-list/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/02/longshoreman-lottery-... > Anyone can put their name in the drawing by sending in a postcard, but ILWU members get a specially marked postcard for their friends and family. > The two are placed in separate barrels and drawn randomly from alternating piles. Institutionalized nepotism.

johnnyanmac 2y ago

I wouldn't, pay your labor. And if you only read that one report that says how a third of workers make 200k+, you should read their hours and actual hourly pay. That overtime pay is probably also in their contracts. And if you would rather push overtime pay than hire more docks men, you reap what you sow.

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Manuel_D 2y ago
Their hourly pay is misleading, because of overtime and container royalties. > And if you would rather push overtime pay than hire more docks men, you reap what you sow. The ports would absolutely love to hire more workers. It's the union that tightly controls membership, to rake in that lucrative overtime.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  >Their hourly pay is misleading, because of overtime and container royalties. Overtime isn't a good thing to rely on. Especially blue collar work where your phyaical body is being whittled away. And yes, I wish we had more royalties for jobs. Everyone would jump on AI overnight if we got a kickback. >The ports would absolutely love to hire more workers. It's the union that tightly controls membership, to rake in that lucrative overtime. Seems backwards that people would want to work 14+ hours a day to make more money. What's money without a life to live? At least CEOs can vacation at their leisure. Blue collar overtime is just draining your life.
  - Manuel_D 2y ago
    > Seems backwards that people would want to work 14+ hours a day to make more money. What's money without a life to live? At least CEOs can vacation at their leisure. Blue collar overtime is just draining your life. That's exactly what people are doing. The shipping companies would gladly hire two longshoremen to work at normal hours instead of paying one worker overtime. Unions are extremely restrictive with membership. There's no lack of people trying to become longshoremen. Only 3% of applicants were granted position in one port: https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/02/longshoreman-lottery-results-announced-for-long-beach-la-ports-find-out-if-youre-on-the-list/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/02/longshoreman-lottery-... > Anyone can put their name in the drawing by sending in a postcard, but ILWU members get a specially marked postcard for their friends and family. > The two are placed in separate barrels and drawn randomly from alternating piles. Institutionalized nepotism.