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It's not just images. I frequently get genAI word salad in the top three to five results when I google anything that could be considered a common question. You

It's not just images. I frequently get genAI word salad in the top three to five results when I google anything that could be considered a common question. You don't even realize at first when you start reading. Then it makes you start to question the things that aren't obviously genAI. You can sort of tell the kinds of things that a human might be wrong about, the ways in which they're wrong, how they sound when they're wrong, how likely they are to be wrong, the formats and platforms wrongness exists within, how often they are wrong and how other humans respond to that. AI is a different beast. No intuition or experience can tell you when reasonable-sounding AI is wrong. Our entire framework of unconscious heuristics for ranking the quality of communicated information being rendered useless overnight may be a recipe for insanity and misery. Virtually nothing has made me this genuinely sad about technology in all my life.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
Not to steal your thunder but loss of privacy still makes me much sadder
Gigachad 2y ago
Tbh I think this is just it for the public internet. It's not Google that's failing, it's the substance of the public internet that has failed. Whenever I need help or questions answered on something, I don't google it, I don't post on public forums, I ask on private group chats where I know everyone is a real person, no one is making money, no one is copy pasting chatgpt to collect internet points to sell their account later. There is only one way I can see things changing and people aren't going to like it. All content on the internet gets linked to a legal ID. Every post on facebook, every comment can be attributed to a real person.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 2y ago
  > All content on the internet gets linked to a legal ID Identity theft would go through the roof.
loveparade 2y ago
I don't think the heuristics are that different. SEO-spam and BS content existed before, and both Google and YT were full of them, all made by human "content creators" who optimized for clicks and focused on gaming the YT recommendation system. AI content isn't that different. But unfortunately it's now 100x easier to generate such content, so we see a lot more of it. The problem is fundamentally a problem of incentives and the ad-based business model, not a problem of AI. AI has made the enshittification problem a lot more visible, but it existed before. I don't know what the solution here is. My guess is that the "public internet" will become less and less relevant over time as it becomes overrun by low-quality content, and a lot of communication will move to smaller communities that rely heavily verifying human identity and credentials.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago

Not to steal your thunder but loss of privacy still makes me much sadder

Gigachad 2y ago

Tbh I think this is just it for the public internet. It's not Google that's failing, it's the substance of the public internet that has failed. Whenever I need help or questions answered on something, I don't google it, I don't post on public forums, I ask on private group chats where I know everyone is a real person, no one is making money, no one is copy pasting chatgpt to collect internet points to sell their account later. There is only one way I can see things changing and people aren't going to like it. All content on the internet gets linked to a legal ID. Every post on facebook, every comment can be attributed to a real person.

Eddy_Viscosity2 2y ago
> All content on the internet gets linked to a legal ID Identity theft would go through the roof.

loveparade 2y ago

I don't think the heuristics are that different. SEO-spam and BS content existed before, and both Google and YT were full of them, all made by human "content creators" who optimized for clicks and focused on gaming the YT recommendation system. AI content isn't that different. But unfortunately it's now 100x easier to generate such content, so we see a lot more of it. The problem is fundamentally a problem of incentives and the ad-based business model, not a problem of AI. AI has made the enshittification problem a lot more visible, but it existed before. I don't know what the solution here is. My guess is that the "public internet" will become less and less relevant over time as it becomes overrun by low-quality content, and a lot of communication will move to smaller communities that rely heavily verifying human identity and credentials.