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> in 2024, my 10 year old laptop is... fine? Except for the lack of security updates and it chokes when playing 1080p youtube videos and such. Also, I doubt y

> in 2024, my 10 year old laptop is... fine? Except for the lack of security updates and it chokes when playing 1080p youtube videos and such. Also, I doubt you've used any Apple Silicon systems. I had a MBP of similar vintage with a discreet GPU, with an upgraded SSD much faster than stock, and the M1 that replaced it was "holy shit" levels faster; now they're on the third gen with the fourth about to make it into portables and workstations.

dghlsakjg 2y ago
It works fine pushing 1440 or 4k, last I checked. I don't have it hooked up to a 4k monitor anymore, but I have no reason to believe that it would have stopped doing it. It does have a discreet GPU, and quite a bit of ram. Its not like 1080p content was pushing the limits of what a macbook could accomplish in 2014, so why would it choke now? The new apple silicon is undeniably faster and more efficient, but the point is that there is, for most intents and purposes, nothing that the old machine can't run that a new one can (unpatched MacOS excepted, but OpenCore or Linux solves for that). Again, I'm not saying that things haven't improved, just saying that a 10 year old computer is still a good machine, in a way that has never been true in the past of personal computing. Compare a consumer computer from 1984, 1994, 2004, 2014 and 2024. The delta between each step is pretty massive up until the last 10 years.
Paianni 2y ago
Most GPUs and iGPUs have had H.264 decoders for over 15 years. In theory any computer with a PCI slot can play 1080p with no frame drops.
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  Yea, really Youtube and browser bloat is the problem. one more reason to pirate.
  - boesboes 2y ago
    Yeah, YT is baaad. Got a linux laptop (more expensive than a MB at the time, for reference) a few years back, with a i7 quad/octo? core. Couldn't decode youtube at 1080p without max rpm on all fans >_<
jazzyjackson 2y ago
OSX Monterey continued to receive security updates until the release of Sequoia last month, which means a 10 year old mac mini would have continued to receive patches. Devices compatible with Monterey (mostly 2015 models, oldest is 2013 mac pro trashcan) https://support.apple.com/en-us/103260 https://support.apple.com/en-us/103260
dhosek 2y ago
The speed bump is less noticeable to me thanks to software bloat than the battery efficiency. I can often go a day and a half on battery power and it’s a bit disconcerting how fast it charges.

dghlsakjg 2y ago

It works fine pushing 1440 or 4k, last I checked. I don't have it hooked up to a 4k monitor anymore, but I have no reason to believe that it would have stopped doing it. It does have a discreet GPU, and quite a bit of ram. Its not like 1080p content was pushing the limits of what a macbook could accomplish in 2014, so why would it choke now? The new apple silicon is undeniably faster and more efficient, but the point is that there is, for most intents and purposes, nothing that the old machine can't run that a new one can (unpatched MacOS excepted, but OpenCore or Linux solves for that). Again, I'm not saying that things haven't improved, just saying that a 10 year old computer is still a good machine, in a way that has never been true in the past of personal computing. Compare a consumer computer from 1984, 1994, 2004, 2014 and 2024. The delta between each step is pretty massive up until the last 10 years.

Paianni 2y ago

Most GPUs and iGPUs have had H.264 decoders for over 15 years. In theory any computer with a PCI slot can play 1080p with no frame drops.

jazzyjackson 2y ago
Yea, really Youtube and browser bloat is the problem. one more reason to pirate.
- boesboes 2y ago
  Yeah, YT is baaad. Got a linux laptop (more expensive than a MB at the time, for reference) a few years back, with a i7 quad/octo? core. Couldn't decode youtube at 1080p without max rpm on all fans >_<

jazzyjackson 2y ago

OSX Monterey continued to receive security updates until the release of Sequoia last month, which means a 10 year old mac mini would have continued to receive patches. Devices compatible with Monterey (mostly 2015 models, oldest is 2013 mac pro trashcan) https://support.apple.com/en-us/103260 https://support.apple.com/en-us/103260

dhosek 2y ago

The speed bump is less noticeable to me thanks to software bloat than the battery efficiency. I can often go a day and a half on battery power and it’s a bit disconcerting how fast it charges.