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Let's put aside the ethical and legal implications of lying to disaster survivors, and calling your normal free trial month as "disaster relief", and enrolling

Let's put aside the ethical and legal implications of lying to disaster survivors, and calling your normal free trial month as "disaster relief", and enrolling people recovering from a disaster in a monthly auto-renewing service after a 1 month free trial ... Actually, no, let's not put that aside. This is repulsive behavior.

inemesitaffia 2y ago
Article is misleading. There's no auto renewal
- falcolas 2y ago
  According to the starlink announcement: "After 30 days, we will move you to a paid Residential subscription, tied the location you are using it in at that time. We will reevaluate as necessary based on conditions in the area. Starlink will notify you as the 30 day mark approaches to remind you of the change."
  - inemesitaffia 2y ago
    These are people with equipment already. You don't need an account to use it so how will you be billed?
    - falcolas 2y ago
      You have to create an account to use the promotion. Go to starlink.com/residential Enter your address and click “Order Now” Select the “Helene Relief” service plan and check out
      - inemesitaffia 2y ago
        It's not required. The map isn't the territory. There's people on ground using it like that w/o activation
        falcolas 2y ago
        So Starlink's activation instructions expressly written for the Hurricane Helene relief effort are lies? Please forgive me if I request a citation. Especially since the information you've provided so far has all been contradicted by official Starlink sources.
        inemesitaffia 2y ago
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        inemesitaffia 2y ago
        https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 I believe this is the org that asked for it
- xracy 2y ago
  "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"
  - inemesitaffia 2y ago
    https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 I believe this is the organization that asked for this. Everyone is buying at retail. You can't actually get it online
    - xracy 2y ago
      Even if this had sources like the above article... You still haven't addressed the fact that the article explicitly calls out the hardware costing $400. So yeah, the service is free for 30 days (like the free trial only worse in some ways from the article), provided you have paid $400. The not auto-renewal is the lowest bar to clear for not being a scummy company. The $400 for the hardware is highway robbery and an opportunistic cash grab. Even in the world where your correction had a primary source you're missing the point by making this correction.
      - inemesitaffia 2y ago
        You can't get the hardware from SpaceX since you want it immediately, so you buy at retail. It's not $400 Cash grab? You think they make the equipment for free in Shangri LA? Is it more expensive than other phased array antennas? Did SpaceX suddenly jack up the price? Is Apple giving out free phones for their free SOS? Does SpaceX owe people phones so they can use direct to cell since that's also free? You don't need to activate it to use it. You just plug it in and it works. There's no credit card to renew. Unless you want to activate it(there's a risk a thief would be able to resell it if you don't) It was always an offer of free service without hardware. Like the mobile providers offering free services in the area, they aren't going to give you free equipment. This is what was offered "Starlink is providing free service for 30 days in regions affected by Hurricane Helene" That's it. You can't extract free equipment from that statement. Even providers that give equipment without charge own it or tie it to a contract. What you pay SpaceX isn't an activation fee. You own your dish in full. See how the guy who asked for this has several dishes? . https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841207137420132549 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841207137420132549

inemesitaffia 2y ago

Article is misleading. There's no auto renewal

falcolas 2y ago
According to the starlink announcement: "After 30 days, we will move you to a paid Residential subscription, tied the location you are using it in at that time. We will reevaluate as necessary based on conditions in the area. Starlink will notify you as the 30 day mark approaches to remind you of the change."
- inemesitaffia 2y ago
  These are people with equipment already. You don't need an account to use it so how will you be billed?
  - falcolas 2y ago
    You have to create an account to use the promotion. Go to starlink.com/residential Enter your address and click “Order Now” Select the “Helene Relief” service plan and check out
    - inemesitaffia 2y ago
      It's not required. The map isn't the territory. There's people on ground using it like that w/o activation
      - falcolas 2y ago
        So Starlink's activation instructions expressly written for the Hurricane Helene relief effort are lies? Please forgive me if I request a citation. Especially since the information you've provided so far has all been contradicted by official Starlink sources.
        inemesitaffia 2y ago
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        inemesitaffia 2y ago
        https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 I believe this is the org that asked for it
xracy 2y ago
"what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"
- inemesitaffia 2y ago
  https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 I believe this is the organization that asked for this. Everyone is buying at retail. You can't actually get it online
  - xracy 2y ago
    Even if this had sources like the above article... You still haven't addressed the fact that the article explicitly calls out the hardware costing $400. So yeah, the service is free for 30 days (like the free trial only worse in some ways from the article), provided you have paid $400. The not auto-renewal is the lowest bar to clear for not being a scummy company. The $400 for the hardware is highway robbery and an opportunistic cash grab. Even in the world where your correction had a primary source you're missing the point by making this correction.
    - inemesitaffia 2y ago
      You can't get the hardware from SpaceX since you want it immediately, so you buy at retail. It's not $400 Cash grab? You think they make the equipment for free in Shangri LA? Is it more expensive than other phased array antennas? Did SpaceX suddenly jack up the price? Is Apple giving out free phones for their free SOS? Does SpaceX owe people phones so they can use direct to cell since that's also free? You don't need to activate it to use it. You just plug it in and it works. There's no credit card to renew. Unless you want to activate it(there's a risk a thief would be able to resell it if you don't) It was always an offer of free service without hardware. Like the mobile providers offering free services in the area, they aren't going to give you free equipment. This is what was offered "Starlink is providing free service for 30 days in regions affected by Hurricane Helene" That's it. You can't extract free equipment from that statement. Even providers that give equipment without charge own it or tie it to a contract. What you pay SpaceX isn't an activation fee. You own your dish in full. See how the guy who asked for this has several dishes? . https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841207137420132549 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841207137420132549