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> They seem to think that LOS is actually usable without rooting, Depends on what software you want to run on your device, I guess. I build LineageOS from sou

> They seem to think that LOS is actually usable without rooting, Depends on what software you want to run on your device, I guess. I build LineageOS from source, so I'm perfectly capable of rooting my device, but I don't bother. I don't use Google Play Services, Google Play, or any apps from Google's store at all. Banking apps are not only unnecessary on my phone, but also unwelcome, mainly because they all demand overreaching permissions. I do my banking in a web browser, on a computer. This way, I have more control over what the banking client can do with the device it runs on, and no worries about what might happen to my accounts if my phone is lost or stolen. With no need to trick software like that into running on my de-googled OS, I haven't had any need to root it.

nfriedly 2y ago
Ok, that's fair. But you have to admit that there are some limitations imposed on what you can do with your phone. For example: my bank doesn't accept check deposits via the website, but they do via the app. But the app only works if you're on an "approved" operating system, or if you root the device to tell the app it is. If I didn't use the app, I'd have to go to a bank branch in person, which means a car trip for me. Similarly, netflix movies and games are only usable on LOS after rooting it. I don't do all that much of either of these, but it's nice to have if I end up stuck in a lobby somewhere for an hour. Odds are good that I won't have a laptop with me.
- foresto 2y ago
  My credit union supported check deposits via web browser for years, but sadly, they discontinued that feature. I suppose I could switch to a credit union that still supports it, but it turns out my current one also accepts check deposits through the mail (I had to call them to learn this) so I do that instead. I'll keep the feature in mind next time I have reason to switch credit unions. Netflix and commercial games just aren't priorities for me. I keep e-books on my phone for lobby reading, and F-Droid games can fill more hours than I think I'll ever have to spend.
nixosbestos 2y ago
FWIW, LendingClub, Schwab, Ameriprise, Fidelity have not requested invasive permissions from me. In the least. However, I spent too much of my 20s futzing with ROMs. I don't doubt that there is a sequence of things to get SafetyNet on Lineage, but it's a losing game. And I refuse to play games like this nowadays, where "my life/time" are the cost I pay. And my lifestyle demands that I have at least backup access on my mobile.

nfriedly 2y ago

Ok, that's fair. But you have to admit that there are some limitations imposed on what you can do with your phone. For example: my bank doesn't accept check deposits via the website, but they do via the app. But the app only works if you're on an "approved" operating system, or if you root the device to tell the app it is. If I didn't use the app, I'd have to go to a bank branch in person, which means a car trip for me. Similarly, netflix movies and games are only usable on LOS after rooting it. I don't do all that much of either of these, but it's nice to have if I end up stuck in a lobby somewhere for an hour. Odds are good that I won't have a laptop with me.

foresto 2y ago
My credit union supported check deposits via web browser for years, but sadly, they discontinued that feature. I suppose I could switch to a credit union that still supports it, but it turns out my current one also accepts check deposits through the mail (I had to call them to learn this) so I do that instead. I'll keep the feature in mind next time I have reason to switch credit unions. Netflix and commercial games just aren't priorities for me. I keep e-books on my phone for lobby reading, and F-Droid games can fill more hours than I think I'll ever have to spend.

nixosbestos 2y ago

FWIW, LendingClub, Schwab, Ameriprise, Fidelity have not requested invasive permissions from me. In the least. However, I spent too much of my 20s futzing with ROMs. I don't doubt that there is a sequence of things to get SafetyNet on Lineage, but it's a losing game. And I refuse to play games like this nowadays, where "my life/time" are the cost I pay. And my lifestyle demands that I have at least backup access on my mobile.