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While I have definitely seen many instances of reporters coming with a preconceived narrative, and then just wanting quotes that further that narrative, I could
by hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
While I have definitely seen many instances of reporters coming with a preconceived narrative, and then just wanting quotes that further that narrative, I could barely get through reading this article. The author seems to want to dump on competing narratives for why kids seem to have trouble with long form reading, but then brings all her own biases and essentially lays them out as fact with 0 evidence. Take early on in the article:
> She, in turn, ascribes these instructional choices to the oppressive presence of standardized testing and the Common Core. And cell phones, always cell phones.
The evidence that cell phones are hugely detrimental to the development of young people is pretty overwhelming these days, and no amount of old, out-of-context quotes taken from earlier "technological panics" will change that. I think the works and research of Jonathan Haidt do an excellent job digging into the effects of cell phones on kids.
And don't even get me started on the "Kids don't want to read the old classics because they're dense and hard to read, they're just challenging the white male patriarchy!" Spare me...
- someguydave 2y ago“ The evidence that cell phones are hugely detrimental to the development of young people is pretty overwhelming these days” Then it would be easy to furnish a few links to source this claim
- hn_throwaway_99 2y ago[flagged]
- someguydave 2y agoHaidt’s evidence is weak https://reason.com/2023/03/29/the-statistically-flawed-evidence-that-social-media-is-causing-the-teen-mental-health-crisis/ https://reason.com/2023/03/29/the-statistically-flawed-evide...
- hn_throwaway_99 2y agoHaidt is not the only one with lots of evidence. This article got a lot of responses on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34993912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34993912 Edit: Also, Jonathan Haidt responded to the article you posted, and he also posted Aaron Brown's follow up to that: https://x.com/JonHaidt/status/1664082247274713092 https://x.com/JonHaidt/status/1664082247274713092
- dang 2y agoPlease don't cross into snark or personal attack. The GP could have been more polite but your response is a noticeable step flameward. We're trying to go the opposite direction here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- briandear 2y agoHere you go: Impact of mobile phones and wireless devices use on children and adolescents’ mental health: a systematic review https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9200624/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9200624/
- hitekker 2y agoI would also add that the actual Atlantic article does not seem to misrepresent or reference the OP at all https://archive.md/R9uqH https://archive.md/R9uqH. Presented as is, no one did the OP dirty. This article is a bait-and-switch.
- fragmede 2y agoJonathan Haidt's work is not without controversy though, and he's pushing a certain viewpoint on order to sell his book. Nature has a review that basically calls him intellectually dishonest with his analysis. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00902-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00902-2
- jallbrit 2y agoThat was interesting. I also found Haidt’s response: https://www.afterbabel.com/p/phone-based-childhood-cause-epidemic https://www.afterbabel.com/p/phone-based-childhood-cause-epi...