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The Disappearance of an Internet Domain
- cut3 2y agoIm confused by this speculation as the .io TLD isnt owned by that country and it isnt disappearing...
- racingmars 2y agoIt doesn't matter who "owns" it (the country probably outsourced management of it to another entity, I assume); the domain exists because it exists as an ISO country code. When the country is no longer a country, and the IO country code is removed from ISO 3166-1, the justification for the domain existing will be gone. The article is saying that per current IANA policies, that should trigger the domain to be retired over a period of several years. Personally, I do find it highly unlikely the domain will go away. They'll do something to keep it around. As the article states toward the end, "The IANA may fudge its own rules and allow .io to continue to exist. Money talks, and there is a lot of it tied up in .io domains."
- detaro 2y agoISO 3166-1 defines codes for "countries, territories, or areas of geographical interest". When the country is no longer a country, the country it's becoming part of might very decide to treat it as something still deserving an ISO code and thus a ccTLD. (and such a status makes sense for pure geographical reasons, its >2000km from Mauritius)
- TRiG_Ireland 2y agoI believe the reasoning is that the list was originally used for post, so far-flung regions of a country may have their own codes, even if they're not politically separate. GF, French Guiana, is a good example. Politically, it's merely a region of France, but it still gets its own code.
- zinekeller 2y agoIf Mauritius decided to used a variant of Chagos/Chagas (so probably CS, since that's the only available code that still somehow fits) then IO will probably be ejected from ISO 3166.
- itcrowd 2y agoHonestly if they get .cs, it would be another nice money maker
- vbezhenar 2y agoSoviet Union does not exist and SU domain is not retired.
- lostmsu 2y ago> Soviet Union does not exist That's what KGB wants you to think
- fragmede 2y agoKGB also doesn't exist anymore because it was renamed FSB.
- atemerev 2y agoKGB was split to what is now SVR (ex 1st main department) and what is now FSB (2nd main department), with some other organizations taking remaining roles. These days however, the Russian intelligence landscape is more complicated, with multiple semi-private organizations, informal groups, and other stakeholders.
- aguaviva 2y agoSeems they were referring to the "USSR Returns" subplot of Season 9, Episode 19: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson_Tide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson_Tide Ironically, there's some unintended truth in their reference (i.e. to all intents and purposes the KGB hasn't gone anywhere and basically is still around, just renamed/reorged) but that's an entirely different thread.
- racingmars 2y agoThe article addresses this: what happened with .su is part of what caused ICANN/IANA to update their policies to not have defunct country codes stick around.
- zinekeller 2y agoAdditionally (and more importantly), SU is still reserved in the ISO 3166 list (https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SU https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SU), so if United Kingdom somehow convinced ISO 3166 MA to reserve IO then it will be messy.
- wiradikusuma 2y ago.io will cease to exist as a ccTLD, but it doesn't mean it can't exist as commercial TLD like .app, considering its widespread use. I think eventually it will be auctioned off.
- detaro 2y agoAccording to current rules, it can't. Only ccTLDs have two letters.
- Avi-D-coder 2y agotime to change the rules
- elcritch 2y agoAs the article says, money talks.
- bloppe 2y agoTIL that .co is for Colombia. Goddam. I was about to buy a .co domain. I guess I'll have to shell out an extra $50k for .com just in case any more geopolotics happens in my lifetime :/
- atemerev 2y ago$50k for a domain? these days? “Interest rates could have been way higher”
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- ryanisnan 2y agoIANA has documentation that outlines what happens in the retirement of a country code top level domain here: https://www.iana.org/help/cctld-retirement https://www.iana.org/help/cctld-retirement tl;dr, if it happens, there will be a 5 year retirement period. We have quite a while to deal with this it seems. This isn't a nothing-sandwich, but pretty close (unless your company is something .io)
- dang 2y agoRecent and related: Future of .io domains uncertain as UK hands over Chagos islands - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41788805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41788805 - Oct 2024 (17 comments) Ask HN: What happens to ".io" TLD after UK gives back the Chagos Islands? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41729526 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41729526 - Oct 2024 (204 comments) UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41729325 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41729325 - Oct 2024 (282 comments)
- ajb 2y ago[removing as posted in the wrong place]
- chrismorgan 2y agoWrong post, you meant to reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41793658 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41793658.
- ajb 2y agoYou are right! I'll post there and delete the above. Thanks for pointing that out!
- fragmede 2y agoquestion is, was that user error, or a system error. I've had that happen to me, and I don't believe it was operator error, which implies there's a bug in arc that happens every once in a while where a http POST goes to the wrong place.
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