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Way to talk down to people. I use PHP as my main language for web development, but also am a frequent C user. I have done projects in C# and Python. While I l

by Mikushi 14y ago

Way to talk down to people. I use PHP as my main language for web development, but also am a frequent C user. I have done projects in C# and Python. While I like C# and Python - actually for scripting I tend to go for Python rather than PHP, prefer the CLI modules of Python- , I found that in context of web dev PHP still get the job done faster and in a maintainable manner. As for C, I use it for writing PHP extension -or generally fucking around with PHP source code- and writing non web stuff, so not as relevant. The difference between people like me and people like you, is I don't go around constantly mocking other language. It is pointless, I'd rather spend my time and energy delivering products, or actually doing something productive.

kintamanimatt 14y ago
I'm not talking down to anybody. Based on experience I asserted that many programmers feel that PHP is an inferior language because they've experienced "cleaner" languages such as Ruby. It's not wholly unreasonable that chez17 had only programmed using PHP, as PHP is commonly a programmer's first language. I therefore wanted to find out if chez17 had used other languages and to see what their thoughts are on PHP vs those other languages. I also don't go around "constantly mocking" other languages. Why did you make that assumption?
- Mikushi 14y ago
  Good, just the way it read. As for constantly mocking other languages, that was not directly pointed at you, but at the constant swarm of people always going about php sucks, php this, php that... We got it, you people don't like PHP, try to see if I care.
  - nessus42 14y ago
    Why shouldn't engineers "mock" the things that they think are badly designed? But by "mock" I mean criticize. In fact, as an engineer, it's one's professional duty to criticize bad design, as good design is essential to the endeavor of engineering progress. Good engineering design vs bad engineering design is what prevents bridges from collapsing or Mars landers from crashing. But I hear you: sure it's quite possible to do arithmetic using Roman numerals, and if that's what you're used to, you probably don't want to hear that you've been doing it suboptimally. And all these people clamoring for a change to decimal are just an unbearable nuisance.

by Mikushi 14y ago

kintamanimatt 14y ago

I'm not talking down to anybody. Based on experience I asserted that many programmers feel that PHP is an inferior language because they've experienced "cleaner" languages such as Ruby. It's not wholly unreasonable that chez17 had only programmed using PHP, as PHP is commonly a programmer's first language. I therefore wanted to find out if chez17 had used other languages and to see what their thoughts are on PHP vs those other languages. I also don't go around "constantly mocking" other languages. Why did you make that assumption?

Mikushi 14y ago
Good, just the way it read. As for constantly mocking other languages, that was not directly pointed at you, but at the constant swarm of people always going about php sucks, php this, php that... We got it, you people don't like PHP, try to see if I care.
- nessus42 14y ago
  Why shouldn't engineers "mock" the things that they think are badly designed? But by "mock" I mean criticize. In fact, as an engineer, it's one's professional duty to criticize bad design, as good design is essential to the endeavor of engineering progress. Good engineering design vs bad engineering design is what prevents bridges from collapsing or Mars landers from crashing. But I hear you: sure it's quite possible to do arithmetic using Roman numerals, and if that's what you're used to, you probably don't want to hear that you've been doing it suboptimally. And all these people clamoring for a change to decimal are just an unbearable nuisance.