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my god, $4-$8/hr who is paying for these VMs?

• ronsor 2y ago
  This is cheaper than 8xH100 GPU compute time for AI.
  • sangnoir 2y ago
    This is such a left-field comparison. One H100 costs $25,000, whereas one Macbook Pro/iMac/iOS device costs roughly a tenth of that. It's not at all surprising that it's cheaper to rent something that has CapEx costs 2 orders of magnitude less than that of 8xH100 ($200k for the GPUs alone).
    • hamandcheese 2y ago
      I think the point was a $4-$8/hr VM is pretty small potatoes compared to other common corporate expenses.
      • sangnoir 2y ago
        The H100 was a terrible example to support that point because it has a much better (rent vs buy) value proposition.
    • Almondsetat 2y ago
      The problem is that H100s are enterprise products while Apple ones aren't. If you have trouble with your H100s how does it compare cost-wise with having trouble with your consumer Apple hardware?
      • eru 2y ago
        Depends on the kind of trouble you are having. Many corner stores can fix a smashed iPhone screen.
• saagarjha 2y ago
  These people: https://www.corellium.com/about#:~:text=Who%20we%20serve https://www.corellium.com/about#:~:text=Who%20we%20serve
  • e____g 2y ago
    No, those people are almost certainly paying far below list price.
    • Cthulhu_ 2y ago
      There's probably some enterprise level deals going on there (as with every service provider), but they will still be paying them A Lot of Money every year.
• walterbell 2y ago
  attackers and defenders of zero day vulns in iOS black boxes
• rtpg 2y ago
  You say that but companies routinely pay projects like Circle CI similar orders of magnitudes for chunkier CI builds (one place I know having builds take 30 minutes.... with 64 shards. Basically paying like 5-10 bucks per commit) You still gotta do hardware management yourself in other words but CI is good business!
  • eru 2y ago
    > Basically paying like 5-10 bucks per commit Which isn't actually all that much, compared to the amount you pay your developers.
    • buginprod 2y ago
      And not much compared to a bug in prod or waiting 3 weeks for a release (the value proposition of CI/CD) Still, saving cloud spend by making the build faster or using self hosted runners is probably worth it.
      • eru 2y ago
        Definitely, if you can cut costs, do it.
    • t-writescode 2y ago
      An additional several thousand dollars per month for any moderately-sized team, especially if you've got a bunch of microservices, sounds very expensive to me, and would probably get axed quickly by any devops team I can think of that's actively working on reducing their costs.
    • rtpg 2y ago
      I mean if you're paying 5+ digits a month on CI it starts being reasonable to say "maybe I should do things to lower the absolute cost of this". 5 dollars time a big enough number is real money!
  • stuckkeys 2y ago
    Is there an alternative service that offers similar service? I am not sure if I have ever seen anything else come close to what these guys do. I recall them going into battle with apple and it looks like they had won. But it sucks that we do not have any open source solution for iOS or Android to emulate the OS for these devices.
• wingerlang 2y ago
  Certainly not paying anyones rent, but I've paid them a couple of bucks over the years to test software on their VMs, since they can come jailbroken out of the box.
• smcleod 2y ago
  You think that's a lot wait until you see what AWS charges for GPU instances...